Yet another VCS3 clone (free)

[ninecows]

What's this tutorial everybody's talking about? Is the Putney/Cynthia mentioned in Computer Music... Is it my synth or what?

If anybody got the article I would love to read it...

I'm not sure what the issue number is, but it's used in a Q+A on emulating Robert Fripp's guitar sounds.

Its number 126, Computer Magazine, June 08, just published, with tutorial to build Fripps sound on "Heroes" by Bowie (and others). Its your Synth (Putney) they are refering very positive in the article. With your new version (cynth) and a lot of testing, it works that you get a great guitar tone if one use FX version of your synth.
Tibor

Oh... cool And I'm just an amateur in SynthEdit. Next: The KVR-database

I'm trying to make a "fix" for the envelop-recycling thing. Can't really decide how it should work. Right now its my intention that it should work as described in the manual, but it doesn't always. Could also go back to the "staccato" playing mode... hmmm... But any way. Feel free to make some patches and I'll put them on my site with credit to you guys.

[DrakeSTAR]

in heroes the sound isnt just the e-bow with the electroharmonix big muff or little big muff ?
if they says it s a synth ... I msho it s a "legend"
I think its guitar les paul 59 mid mike /e box and lectro harmonix
have you ever heard it ?
the guitar sings alone you can make a note and go have a bite as said Nigel from Spinel Tap

[Scot Solida]

in heroes the sound isnt just the e-bow with the electroharmonix big muff or little big muff ?
if they says it s a synth ... I msho it s a "legend"
I think its guitar les paul 59 mid mike /e box and lectro harmonix
have you ever heard it ?
the guitar sings alone you can make a note and go have a bite as said Nigel from Spinel Tap

It's not an e-bow, no, though you can indeed make a similar sound with an e-bow. Fripp has used a wide variety of effects chains to produce his signature sounds over the years, and many times that sound was helped along by an EMS Synthi. As a matter of fact, the very unit Fripp used on "Heroes" was later given to Bowie as a gift.

[bailees7irish]

just a bump for this cool synth that people may have forgotten about

~Bren

[jupiter8]

in heroes the sound isnt just the e-bow with the electroharmonix big muff or little big muff ?
if they says it s a synth ... I msho it s a "legend"
I think its guitar les paul 59 mid mike /e box and lectro harmonix
have you ever heard it ?
the guitar sings alone you can make a note and go have a bite as said Nigel from Spinel Tap

It's not an e-bow, no, though you can indeed make a similar sound with an e-bow. Fripp has used a wide variety of effects chains to produce his signature sounds over the years, and many times that sound was helped along by an EMS Synthi. As a matter of fact, the very unit Fripp used on "Heroes" was later given to Bowie as a gift.

"Everyone who's played the song with Bowie since then has had to use an E-bow to duplicate it, but Fripp had a technique in those days where he measured the distance between the guitar and the speaker where each note would feed back. For instance, an 'A' would feed back maybe at about four feet from the speaker, whereas a 'G' would feed back maybe three and a half feet from it. He had a strip that they would place on the floor, and when he was playing the note 'F' sharp he would stand on the strip's 'F' sharp point and 'F' sharp would feed back better. He really worked this out to a fine science, and we were playing this at a terrific level in the studio, too. It was very, very loud, and all the while he was playing these notes — that beautiful overhead line — Eno was turning the dials and creating a new envelope and just playing with the filter bank. We did three takes of that, and although one take would sound very patchy, three takes had all of these filter changes and feedback blending into that very smooth, haunting, overlaying melody which you hear."

[BrufordRules]

In the Presets page there are only links to porn content.

Has anybody noticed that?

[bailees7irish]

In the Presets page there are only links to porn content.

Has anybody noticed that?

yep.. i saw that earlier today..

[ninecows]

In the Presets page there are only links to porn content.

Has anybody noticed that?

yep.. i saw that earlier today..

yes... just came home from a vacation and it seems like there's been a major spam-attack. I'll start deleting the porn-topics. Really annoying

[kilgoretrout]

I just read the first two pages of this thread, so excuse me if I am redundant.

I am looking forward to downloading this and trying it out. I have Reaktor and the emulation is nothing like the real AKS. BTW - I also have a real AKS and truly enjoy tweaking it.

To the designer, congratulations on a herculean effort. Be careful to not try to make it too universal. My AKS is an excellent effects machine, but there is no way I could actually have it carry a tune for long without going out of tune.

One other attribute of the original AKS - the battleship style pin board has a ton of cross-talk and voltage droop issues. If you have say OSC1 being modulated by OSC3 and plug OSC3 into say the filter cutoff, it changes the mod on Osc1. I know that a ton of people would hate this, but it is part of what gave the Putney or AKS their unique sounds.

[ninecows]

Be careful to not try to make it too universal. My AKS is an excellent effects machine, but there is no way I could actually have it carry a tune for long without going out of tune.

One other attribute of the original AKS - the battleship style pin board has a ton of cross-talk and voltage droop issues. If you have say OSC1 being modulated by OSC3 and plug OSC3 into say the filter cutoff, it changes the mod on Osc1. I know that a ton of people would hate this, but it is part of what gave the Putney or AKS their unique sounds.

Perhaps I should make an "unstable" version with cross-talk and OSC's that wont keep in tune It would be fun to do, but it would also be pretty useless as a VSTi... The masses expect it to sound the same each time

By the way - how is it compared to the original? Is it anyway near? I would never claim that it is. Neither is it intended to. All those mod's and just the OSC's alone would propably sound different. I just did my best to get the same architecture as the original, so at least the routing possibilities would be the same.

And how is the reaktor compared to mine? I guess the reaktor one is less CPU-hungry?

Wish I had the original, but for 5200€ I dont think so...

[bailees7irish]

Perhaps I should make an "unstable" version with cross-talk and OSC's that wont keep in tune It would be fun to do, but it would also be pretty useless as a VSTi...

instead of a entirely seperate VSTi, what about a button that could switch between stable and unstable on the same plug?

[spacedad]

+1 for unstable.

[ninecows]

instead of a entirely seperate VSTi, what about a button that could switch between stable and unstable on the same plug?

Cool I'll look into that, but don't hold your breath waiting. I'm pretty busy now that I started at work again.

[Chopper]

a way to have it overdriving internaly would help, as it would make it closer to the original, and also would stop it to go to +30db of output with some patches...
keep up the good work!

[nprime]

I can't for the life of me figure out how to assign a MIDI cc to a control on this unit, can anyone enlighten me?

The manual simply says I can do it, but not how to do it. Unless it's a limitation of Ableton Live?