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Hi DragonSagoth,

AET filters aren't used in Electri6ity at all !The morphing we developed is much more advanced than what the AET filters can do :)

@peterjgross:
Did you overwrite all NKIs and NKMs? If background load is enabled a resave shouldn't be necessary to get the drastically improved loading time.

I'm glad you like the update btw! We started working on the update as soon as the masterdiscs were ready, that's why it was possible for Vir2 to release the update that soon after the release.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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dynamitec wrote:Hi DragonSagoth,

AET filters aren't used in Electri6ity at all !The morphing we developed is much more advanced than what the AET filters can do :)
Care to explain a bit? :)

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Sorry, but all I can say is: it works and it works better than AET :wink:
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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Hehe :P

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So, Benjamin, can we play a sustained note and then morph into a harmonic (or the same muted note) using the modwheel while we're holding the note?

If we could, that would be awesome. This is what would set Electri6ity apart from the rest.

Ben
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present

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That's a cool idea! It's not possible at moment, but I'm looking into that! Theoretically it's definitely possible!
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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dynamitec wrote:That's a cool idea! It's not possible at moment, but I'm looking into that! Theoretically it's definitely possible!
LOL you can't be serious can you?

That's one of the fundamental playability aspects of a guitar. Here you are telling us about this morphing technology and then telling us that it doesn't work on a held note or notes?

I thought that was the whole idea of being able to use the MOD wheel to "morph" from a sustain to a mute or a sustain to a harmonic.

I'm still shocked. I hope you sort this out very soon. How are you supposed to mute notes that are ringing? Or introduce harmonics during a sustained note? Without being able "morph" a sustained note that is complete impossibility.

Really, I'm not sure what all this "morphing" hype is all about. I really don't see what the point is. Seamless velocity layers and articulation switching, yes, that is a good thing, but apart from that it all seems pointless.
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present

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benjamind, I think you don't quite understand why it's important to have morphing (both articulation and velocity morphing). Let me explain:

First of all: You can mute notes that are ringing in Electri6iy (both with your palm on the bridge or with your hand on the fretboard), but that's a different thing, since it will stop the notes. Just like on a real guitar: If you play a sustain note and you'll put your palm on the strings, the note stops ringing!
The other way doesn't work either on a real guitar: if you play a dead muted note and you open it after you've played it, you'll get a some kind of a strange 'pull off' and not a sustain note variation from the muted note you've played.

That's why it *doesn't* make much sense to morph from sustain to muted or from muted to sustain *after* a note has been played and while it is held.

So why the morphing?

The morphing is important to get a smooth gradient from muted to sustain notes. And that is what Electri6ity can do perfectly. And it's important to get a smooth velocity response from soft to hard picked notes. And you'll get all the variations in between. That's the point of the morphing. And it's one point that sets Electri6ity apart from other guitar libraries.

A guitar isn't a violin which you play with a bow. If it was, it would be important to be able to morph from quiet to loud while a note is held for example.

The only case it make sense on a guitar to morph from a sustain note to harmonics after a note has been played is to simulate feedback or the effect of touching the strings very light to produce a harmonics after a note has been played.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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Hi guys,

We've been reading your posts over the past few weeks and it's been interesting to see your initial thoughts and feedback on Electri6ity. For those of you who haven't already bought the product (or are interested in owning other Vir2 Instruments) we've just posted this thread over in the marketplace forum...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 86#4124586

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dynamitec wrote:The only case it make sense on a guitar to morph from a sustain note to harmonics after a note has been played is to simulate feedback or the effect of touching the strings very light to produce a harmonics after a note has been played.
I read the explanation, that all makes sense now ;-)

Will you be able to add a feature to morph from sustain to harmonics while a note is being held? I think that would add a nice feature to the instrument and give us another guitar effect that is quite often used in many genres of music.

Ben
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present

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Benjamin,
What guitar and amp sims where used on tech demo 2?
What amp sim is on the Lp rock riffs demo? I'd be very satisfied with this combo! The demos sound great!
Bill

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Hi everyone,

Przemyslaw Kopczyk did a very nice, dark and moody trailer demo for Electri6ity. All guitars (rhythm, clean and solo) were played and recorded live.
The rhythm and clean guitars are using the various strum keys in Electri6ity which make it very easy to do rhythm and strumming parts.

Take a listen:

Darkroom
http://www.benjaminstelzer.de/demo_new/ ... rkroom.mp3
Last edited by dynamitec on Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:34 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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bill45 wrote:Benjamin,
What guitar and amp sims where used on tech demo 2?
What amp sim is on the Lp rock riffs demo? I'd be very satisfied with this combo! The demos sound great!
Bill
Hi Bill,
I'm glad you like it. It's the Les Paul through Guitar Rig 4. Same with the LP rock riff demos.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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dynamitec wrote:That's a cool idea! It's not possible at moment, but I'm looking into that! Theoretically it's definitely possible!
Hello Benjamin
Electri6ity is amazing, and intense, I have the manual almost memorized and
by trial and era I am undestanding more of how everything works, also,
I am glad I found this forum, for I have been trying to go from sustain to harmonics with no success, now I know why. I hope you can somehow incorporate the two, and on the subject of Harmonics, I cannot seem to control the volume etc of the harmonics, I have tried using the expression pedal to activate harmonics and also velocity, and it seems that harmonics are on or off, when they are on, the volume of the harmonics does not blend in well.
I see no control for harmonics in calibration etc. is there something that I am missing? Thanks
GPL

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Hi GPL,

I sent you a PM.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio

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