KVR Audio

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:57 pm

rob_lee wrote:
Angus_FX wrote:I think a lot of developers feel that if license transfer fees discourage that small minority of people from buying in the first place, that's not necessarily a bad thing.[/i]
Sometimes it's that small minority that keeps company's like yours going.. also my comment wasn't posted in an Fxpansion topic, i said my piece in that one a while back, i must have touched a nerve

Chow

Sir Bob

Umm, Angus is an old member of KvR. Surely he can browse the forum and give his own opinion anywhere he wants, no? Besides, his point is valid (though personally I don't really like the extra fee either but it doesn't influence my purchase decision).

Cheers!
bManic

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:00 pm

bmanic wrote:
rob_lee wrote:
Angus_FX wrote:I think a lot of developers feel that if license transfer fees discourage that small minority of people from buying in the first place, that's not necessarily a bad thing.[/i]
Sometimes it's that small minority that keeps company's like yours going.. also my comment wasn't posted in an Fxpansion topic, i said my piece in that one a while back, i must have touched a nerve

Chow

Sir Bob
Umm, Angus is an old member of KvR. Surely he can browse the forum and give his own opinion anywhere he wants, no? Besides, his point is very valid.

Cheers!
bManic

Uhm, true but my point is also valid, although it just depends who you are around here don't it

PS
Old member or new i couldn't give a monkey's toss, he was replying to me as you can see in the quote..

Rob

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:02 pm

srcodling wrote:
bitfreak8 wrote:It Sounds pretty good, but at €209 i'll have to pass. (what share-it wants from me, 1920SEK = about €209)
Share-it wants 280CAD for 199USD here in Canada... Not sure what planet that exchange rate is coming from, but it sure isn't the one I'm living on...

Exactly I was expecting around 150 as a gladiator owner, but even now that there is no discount for gladiator owners (which there should be because resynthesis never came), I'd still likely be willing to pay 200 now that I've tried it and really like it. But 280? That's crazy. That basically the same as us dollars (a few dollars less - 276 right now). And that swing really needs to be fixed.

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:03 pm

playing with the demo-- how the heck do I just load / clear an INIT patch? I honestly don't understand why every soft-synth doesn't have the simple functionality (like all the NI synths) of just sticking a "clear patch" command in the file menu...or at least putting 'init' as a patch into one of the banks..on this thing, there's a 'user' bank but no apparent way to just get this thing to default 'starting' settings.....

anybody?

-M

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:06 pm

Total: GBP 176.08
includes 19% sales tax/VAT to GBP 147.97: GBP 28.11

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:07 pm

mholloway wrote:playing with the demo-- how the heck do I just load / clear an INIT patch? I honestly don't understand why every soft-synth doesn't have the simple functionality (like all the NI synths) of just sticking a "clear patch" command in the file menu...or at least putting 'init' as a patch into one of the banks..on this thing, there's a 'user' bank but no apparent way to just get this thing to default 'starting' settings.....

anybody?

-M

its mentioned a few times in this thread, have a read thru the posts...

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:07 pm

mholloway wrote:playing with the demo-- how the heck do I just load / clear an INIT patch? I honestly don't understand why every soft-synth doesn't have the simple functionality (like all the NI synths) of just sticking a "clear patch" command in the file menu...or at least putting 'init' as a patch into one of the banks..on this thing, there's a 'user' bank but no apparent way to just get this thing to default 'starting' settings.....

anybody?

-M

Tone2 wrote:Q: How can i create an init preset with the demo?
A: The synth engine has nothing to hide, since it's high-end. To evalute this copy 'Init_Substrative.fxp' from the 'ElectraX_data' directory to 'User'.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:07 pm

That functionality has been removed in the demo. It's very easy apparently in the full version.

Wow.. this thread moves fast.

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:08 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Total: GBP 176.08
includes 19% sales tax/VAT to GBP 147.97: GBP 28.11

And....................

f**k the taxman Dave

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:09 pm

Only 19%? You lucky f**kers.. it's 23% here.

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:10 pm

bmanic wrote:Only 19%? You lucky f**kers.. it's 23% here.

23% where at? Jeez that's even worse

Rob

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:12 pm

I bought Gladiator 2 used (though with the upgrade packs I've purchased for it, it's probably one of my most expensive plug-ins at this point) but if I hadn't I'd be really mad. This synth clearly could have been Gladiator 3, but that would mean they'd have to give upgrade pricing instead of giving it a new name and giving a free license to a plug in you don't want. Lame, but no surprise from Tone2.

Edit: Markus, there's a reason I buy any product from Urs Heckman without even trying the demo. His software it top notch and he treats me like a valued customer and not a pirate that begrudgingly bought his software because he couldn't find a cracked version.

Gucky · Post by **Gucky** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:31 pm

I also think that ElectraX could also be called Gladiator 3.
It is better but I think it sounds in many presets like an upgraded Gladiator 2 also the developers say that is complete different.
I would buy it for a upgrade price for 99€ but never for 189€.
So I am still happy with my Gladiator 2.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Gucky wrote:I also think that ElectraX could also be called Gladiator 3.

In Electrax there are no modifier chains. In this part it is downgrade. But filters in ElectraX is a pure good trip.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:58 pm

Ok, I figured out what is up with the swing. It wasn't mentioned in the documentation so in case it confused anyone else, here's what's going on. If you have it set to 1 BPM (that is, if you're in 4/4, each step in the arp would be a sixteenth note), the swing is actually 1/8 note swing, which gets completely messy and useless if you're working with 1/16th notes at 1BPM. But if you use 2BPM, at which point the steps are 1/32nd notes, then it is a sixteenth note swing. So odd steps are the sixteenths and it delays every other odd numbered step (3,7,11,15). This is very confusing at first because you'd expect the sixteenth note swing to be at 1BPM where steps are sixteenth note. However this isn't so bad once you understand it because it lets you have 1/32nd notes in the arpeggiator while having 1/16th note swing, which is pretty cool actually.

Can anyone confirm the FM knob behavior not engaging until both the knob and the note are released when starting from 0?

Tone2 ElectraX is available!