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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:51 pm

susiwong wrote:
Hink wrote:susi, that Marshall would do great with the old cali hotrod
not in a million years !

Now you plug in a good Les Paul, turn it up a little above half and all the Free, Cream or vintage Gibbons are right there, no guesswork necessary.
Cheers,
susiwong

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:59 pm

Hink wrote:

Not familiar with these clerical uniforms, which one's the Reverend ?

They both look vintage ...
Lol,
susiwong

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:14 am

Hink wrote:Does the tweaker 40 have a loop?

Dunno, we'll have to see. btw, if anyone ever needs a direct out, a Behringer DI100 or GI100 between the amp and speaker does the job fine (I know that's not your concern, someone else mentioned that.

Also are you guys carrying the jet city deadbox cab?

We have one on order but I don't know when it'll get delivered.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:40 am

Hink wrote:
susiwong wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
susiwong wrote:a modded Blue Angel
How did you mod your Blue Angel? I'd love to have the reverb footswitch simultaneously change the fat/bright switch and defeat the mid pot, given how much the mid affects the saturation. I'd also like to make the effects switchable to series, just so a master volume can be inserted there.

btw, I changed V1 and V2 to 5751's which tightened up the feel, made the amp less noisy, and provided a more useful range to the volume control. I also changed V5 to a 12AT7 which dropped the overall volume and further tightened up the feel. The amp now reminds me of an 18W Marshall when driven yet it can still sound like a Super Reverb when the bright switch is on and the mids are dropped.
Similar thing you did, maybe modding is too big a word.
Found the recipe in a forum.
V1 - 12AX7
V2 - 12AY7
V3 - 12AT7
V4 - 12AX7
V5 - 12AT7
All TAD afair, same as all power tubes.
The icing on the cake was a pair of unbranded NOS 6V6 that sound incredible, unfortunately my Deluxe Reverb needed them even more, what can you do ?
Those were the last, and they weren't cheap.
I'll try 6L6s in the Angel one of these days.
Your description is spot on, btw !
A (buffered ?) LoZ volume pedal in the loop (see below) will work as MV, since you have the blend control.
Remote switching of the boost / mid pot is not trivial due to the extreme level jumps.
I set mine for chimey clean and use a good OD or two in front.

The beauty of the Classic 50 (212 here) is its "interactivity", I played countless gigs with only a 25k volume pedal and a delay, both in the loop, and an EC style active Strat - guitar controls tone and drive, pedal controls volume - everything at your fingertips, sounds like a million $.
With a passive guitar a Klon or Horny, , Honey Bee work similar, you gotta get used to not running the guitar full open though - like in the old days.
This setup is remarkably versatile in terms of stage volume, too - anything between a bar with 20 people and a smaller open air stage works great.
For really big stages adding a 1960 always did the trick.
All that for modern country / country rock, so I often needed really clean tones.

Interesting about that Marshall clone, Jubilees are nice, but importing to Europe might prove difficult due to voltages.
I'll keep an eye open for a late 70s 2203, they're still affordable if you can wait a bit - would make a nice companion to my beloved '76 50W Lead.

All the best for 2011, btw - as usual, you're late !
Cheers,
susiwong
susi, that Marshall would do great with the old cali hotrod

Or Mike Fortin

Greeting Eric man, good to hear from you, Hope you had a good christmas and new year mate

Dean

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:55 am

Uncle E wrote:
NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Yep have a good one also my friends
May this one be good to you all
Happy New Years, guys! It's been fun closing out the year with all this guitar talk on a software forum!

btw, Dean, do check out a Framus Dragon in 2011. That would be my amp if I still played metal.

I am already a fan Eric but i just do not think the price is not that good a deal (i maybe wrong though), if i notice one going second-hand/used then i would seriously consider it then. Thanks for the heads up. Even the first version of the ruby red was a gain machine and for a class A job i ain't ever heard an amp with higher gain than that but IIRC many people did not dig that so Framus revised it to a more polite but great amp. I am also a fan of their cabs as they allow you to open/swiftly remove a panel or two on the back to loosen them or have full-on closed back tightness. Again the Cabs are just a little step for me but second hand yep.

I really like the Tweaker also and its versatile sounds via the mini-toggles and if i was going for an Egnator then i would go for the 20 watt Tweaker i think. Not tried any of the bigger tourmaster models *yet* but have eyed them up in store. I could use a day to sit in my local all day and try as many of the different amps they have in, just a matter of finding the right day to do it!

Cheers

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:13 am

NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:I am already a fan Eric but i just do not think the price is not that good a deal

The new prices are steep but used they sell for less than Rectifiers here in the States. Framus just hasn't caught on here. Personally, I've got an early rackmount, hand-wired Dual Rectifier, which is considered by some to be the very best Rectifier ever built, and I'd take a Framus over that any day.

I am also a fan of their cabs as they allow you to open/swiftly remove a panel or two on the back to loosen them or have full-on closed back tightness.

The Cobra cab is so sick looking. I've always wondered if that metal grill is part of smooth sound I got from the amp.

Not tried any of the bigger tourmaster models *yet* but have eyed them up in store.

The TOL100 has tight, percussive high gain tones. The problem is that tightness is what makes me dislike the clean and crunch channels so much.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:25 am

btw, here's an amp I'm seriously considering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

If it were the 1x12 version, I'd pick it up in heartbeat, but I'm concerned that this 2x10 will be unwieldy, especially considering that the main reason for me looking for a new amp is to get a portable alternative to my 4x10 Blue Angel.

The ones that got away:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1223wt_905

I was the runner up bidder on that Maz 38 and somebody clicked buy-it-now on that Black Pearl at the exact moment I was making up mind about it.

Also, here's something I'm regretting picking up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

The high gain tones are surprisingly good, much better than even the Line 6 Alchemy series, but the clean tones don't have much feel to them.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:37 am

I never hear anyone talk of Genz benz. I had a KILLER 2x10 bass cab I lugged when I was in phoenix. Sounded bigger than a 4x10 but wasn't as big (fit in my little toyota truck front seat)

someone called simon · Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:52 am

I got me a Swart AST pretty much exactly a year ago. My first ever really good amp and boutiquey bit of gear. I love it more than life itself, almost.... And it's probably gonna have to do me till the end as well....

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:50 pm

Hink,
I told you that thread would cost me !

You owe me 400 Euros ...

Top condition, all new TAD tubes, 1 EQ button missing, unfortunately no footswitch (but 8 1/4" switch jacks, so it's an open system anyway

)
This will go in a rack with my Studio Pre and JMP-1, a few Behringer / Rocktron denoisers, Waves DI and a patchbay, so I can record all kinds of combinations and/or plug into a G-Major, Mesa 50/50 and 412.

I'll post pics and a closer description when it's done, a simpler version already works fine.
Cheers,
susiwong

Btw, the Quad essentially combines the preamp sections of the Mk IIc+ (top) and the early Mk III (bottom) with an incredible two-stage spring reverb, the Studio again is a bit diferent. So no overlaps here, both have really good recording outs, too.

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:04 pm

Uncle E wrote:btw, here's an amp I'm seriously considering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

If it were the 1x12 version, I'd pick it up in heartbeat, but I'm concerned that this 2x10 will be unwieldy, especially considering that the main reason for me looking for a new amp is to get a portable alternative to my 4x10 Blue Angel.

The ones that got away:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1223wt_905

I was the runner up bidder on that Maz 38 and somebody clicked buy-it-now on that Black Pearl at the exact moment I was making up mind about it.

Also, here's something I'm regretting picking up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

The high gain tones are surprisingly good, much better than even the Line 6 Alchemy series, but the clean tones don't have much feel to them.

Eric,
why don't you just have somebody build you a head case or a 112 enclosure for the Angel ? It sounds great with a single EV12L for example, a friend owned one with a 12" Black Shadow (Celestion 90) which also was nice, a bit darker maybe.
Mine's the head, very comfortable to carry, and I combine it with a Marshall 1922 for quick pick-up-and-go.

(photo of the previous owner, obviously no 1922)
Ymmv,
susiwong

Out of your above links the DrZ stands out head and shoulders imho, sorry to say.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:11 pm

Uncle E wrote:btw, here's an amp I'm seriously considering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

If it were the 1x12 version, I'd pick it up in heartbeat, but I'm concerned that this 2x10 will be unwieldy, especially considering that the main reason for me looking for a new amp is to get a portable alternative to my 4x10 Blue Angel.

The ones that got away:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1223wt_905

I was the runner up bidder on that Maz 38 and somebody clicked buy-it-now on that Black Pearl at the exact moment I was making up mind about it.

Also, here's something I'm regretting picking up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

The high gain tones are surprisingly good, much better than even the Line 6 Alchemy series, but the clean tones don't have much feel to them.

Ah i will let susiwong talk about the ones which got away. I will say a 1x12 Pitbull would be awesome and alot like the DSL 40 1x12 Combos loud as you need but still portable and retain a bigger amp feel than the size suggests. Real shame it is not a 1x12" since you already have 10" covered Eric and the pitbull is very much a 12" kinda monster. Sorry to hear about what i would love in an amp (the tourmaster) being what does not suit also FWIW

Dean

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:13 pm

susiwong wrote:Hink,
I told you that thread would cost me !
You owe me 400 Euros ...

Top condition, all new TAD tubes, 1 EQ button missing, unfortunately no footswitch (but 8 1/4" switch jacks, so it's an open system anyway )
This will go in a rack with my Studio Pre and JMP-1, a few Behringer / Rocktron denoisers, Waves DI and a patchbay, so I can record all kinds of combinations and/or plug into a G-Major, Mesa 50/50 and 412.
I'll post pics and a closer description when it's done, a simpler version already works fine.
Cheers,
susiwong

Btw, the Quad essentially combines the preamp sections of the Mk IIc+ (top) and the early Mk III (bottom) with an incredible two-stage spring reverb, the Studio again is a bit diferent. So no overlaps here, both have really good recording outs, too.

Late present to yourself? Nice one

Edit: Preamps the new black it seems in this thread along with small amps. Dig it myself, still one more big unwieldy br00tal head with watts to spare is still in my future

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:22 pm

hibidy They do a great 2x12" that sounds massive but the actual guitar amps themselves are decent but not worth the asking price to me personally. I think Recabinet comes with a set of IR of the cabinet i am talking about

Cabs are Genz Benz forte AFAIK, never had a chance to try their bass amps out over here either

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:57 pm

susiwong wrote:Hink,
I told you that thread would cost me !
You owe me 400 Euros ...

Top condition, all new TAD tubes, 1 EQ button missing, unfortunately no footswitch (but 8 1/4" switch jacks, so it's an open system anyway )
This will go in a rack with my Studio Pre and JMP-1, a few Behringer / Rocktron denoisers, Waves DI and a patchbay, so I can record all kinds of combinations and/or plug into a G-Major, Mesa 50/50 and 412.
I'll post pics and a closer description when it's done, a simpler version already works fine.
Cheers,
susiwong

Btw, the Quad essentially combines the preamp sections of the Mk IIc+ (top) and the early Mk III (bottom) with an incredible two-stage spring reverb, the Studio again is a bit diferent. So no overlaps here, both have really good recording outs, too.

nice

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