NUSofting - Entity.

[liqih]

Hi all,

Michael Olsen said it all, for me too.
Nothing to add so far and my english is worse, <grin>.

it sounds great but honestly the font and look, fo not look very professional to me. I know it is only sound that matters though and it sounds great but this will for sure put many people off who are used to very pro looking synths. A shame because it sounds so awesome.

It is due to get a new look, partly why its still on introductory offer, a new GUI and a few refinements, such as grouping filters for modulation are on the way. I also think the GUI at present looks under par, mentioned it when I first demoed the synth.

100% correct, the price will double when the new GUI will be released.
I know that we promised that earlier for the end of September,
but other job priorities came in both for me and for Michael.
Still planned to be released before the end of the year.

About the x64 in FL Studio, that has not been tested yet, so thanks for reporting the bug
we will take care.

[nasenmann]

just started checking presets...most are meh but some are awesome enough to warrant a closer inspection of the synth.

anyway question: mono patches don't seem to put priority on last played note if multiple keys are pressed. it's really hard to play. why doesn't the legato behave like legato?

i'm probably being stupid and missing something obvious. using this in FL10.

x64 indeed not working. guess FL's x64 wrapper doesn't like it.

EDIT: ok nevermind i mistook arpeggio patches for lead patches and didnt hit play in host

[Vnex007]

Just tried the 64 bit demo is FL Studio, all I get when I load it is a black box, I cannot see anything. I do get the message that it is a demo but I cannot see the synth.

I had the same issue with the demo. But the registered version works fine in 64bits in FL Studio. Don't understand why.

[liqih]

just started checking presets...most are meh but some are awesome enough to warrant a closer inspection of the synth.

Thanks and it would be helpful to know (from everybody not just you, <grin>), the names of the favoutites,
so we could make more in that style

EDIT: ok nevermind i mistook arpeggio patches for lead patches and didnt hit play in host

yeah arpeggiator needs [Play] from the host

Just tried the 64 bit demo is FL Studio, all I get when I load it is a black box, I cannot see anything. I do get the message that it is a demo but I cannot see the synth.

I had the same issue with the demo. But the registered version works fine in 64bits in FL Studio. Don't understand why.

Now I remember! Yes only the x64 demo seems to need an update. Thanks so much for remidning that

[Dr. Nyquist]

Thanks for the clarification Michael. I am still very dumbfounded on many levels. But in the end I do wish you guys much luck.

I did notice the percentage differences between the two when loading. I did hear (what I thought to be) a difference in the reverb.

But why does it look so damn much like NexSyn? I a synth that failed, and is still at the subject of debate?

Surely, reworking code was much more of a chore than coming up with a new GUI architecture. It's EXACTLY THE SAME LAYOUT! C'mon!

I was torn with this. I wouldn't think you would be as brazen as to violate copyrights, but when the two synths open each other presets, hmmm... almost identically, you can't argue that there might be some suspicion there. I understand re-working the DSP as you explained, but even the modulation matrix is and audio signal paths are the same! The signal flow charts in the manuals are pretty much identical!

It's like you designed a new car by taking an old one, putting a new engine in it but kept the same drive train. You tried giving it couple new paint jobs, but it still has the tacky plastic ground effects and spoiler. You got a new driver for it, but it's still having a difficult time getting around the track because it's controversial right off the line....

I feel shafted you didn't drop me a line when you started to rip into NexSyn - A product I put 3 years of my life into. You really weren't required to, I understand, just like I wasn't required to ask you about this privately. I am now just a KVR'er who noticed a synth that looks like a rip-off and I had the balls to say so. You don't know me any other way, do you?

Again, good luck Michael.

[whyterabbyt]

You got a new driver for it, but it's still having a difficult time getting around the track because it's controversial right off the line....

the only controversy over Entity has been initiated by you, and it seems you're still trying to keep it going...

I feel shafted you didn't drop me a line when you started to rip into NexSyn - A product I put 3 years of my life into.

hence the libelous accusations?

[Dr. Nyquist]

You got a new driver for it, but it's still having a difficult time getting around the track because it's controversial right off the line....

the only controversy over Entity has been initiated by you, and it seems you're still trying to keep it going...

I feel shafted you didn't drop me a line when you started to rip into NexSyn - A product I put 3 years of my life into.

hence the libelous accusations?

How am I keeping it going?

What libelous accusations?

[botkiller]

Man whyterabbyt, you're utterly boring. Do you ever offer up anything useful?

Anyway - MO, thanks for the clarification. I can't say that I enjoy the synth, I think it sounds good, but I'm still confused as to why Nexsyn was used as the template, being that as Jason pointed out, it is considered a failure by so many (and yes, I've read that you guys liked bits about it, etc. etc.) - I would be worried that people would not be interested based solely on the fact that it's based on Nexsyn's layout, which we caught tons of flack for in the past (although I personally still love Nexsyn, and the work I/we did with it).

I'm also confused why you wouldn't think this could eventually turn into a "let's all hate koblo/keytosound" deal, as you had alluded to in another post. You used the interface of a synth that was derided by many - I can't see how this wouldn't turn into an issue at some point.

Anyway, I guess it's neither here nor there, now. I certainly do hope you do well with the synth. Maybe the lesson here is that when bringing up old code and old wounds, it's good to talk to each other first, no? Yes, Wolf could have gotten you via email before bringing this up on the forums - but you'd already released this synth, and it had already been called into suspicion that it looked so much like Nexsyn - it just so happened that Wolf dug further into the synth, since Nexsyn was his baby. He had that right, being that he wrote the manual, did the sound design, and did a huge part of the GUI design. Wolf put three years into Nexsyn and I can understand being pretty thrown off when you see it essentially reborn into another synth without knowing about it. Hell, I was thrown off (still am), having put nearly two years of my life into Nexsyn - but as I say, whatever, I won't press the matter anymore. Good luck, take care.

*edit* why does your new GUI look EVEN MORE like Nexsyn?

[botkiller]

You got a new driver for it, but it's still having a difficult time getting around the track because it's controversial right off the line....

the only controversy over Entity has been initiated by you, and it seems you're still trying to keep it going...

I feel shafted you didn't drop me a line when you started to rip into NexSyn - A product I put 3 years of my life into.

hence the libelous accusations?

How am I keeping it going?

What libelous accusations?

Yeah wolf! How DARE YOU point out things based on prior experience, knowledge, and facts! You're such a troll.

Oh wait, it's not YOU who's the troll...

[Meffy]

How to keep it going: Don't stop replying. After all, nobody can have the last word, right?

[Dr. Nyquist]

How to keep it going: Don't stop replying. After all, nobody can have the last word, right?

well, actually Meffy, you can have the last word if you want it.

Thanks for being fair and understanding. This thread / discussion is closer to botkiller and I than you know.

[botkiller]

How to keep it going: Don't stop replying. After all, nobody can have the last word, right?

I've dealt with KVR trolls for a long time. I respect what you're saying, but I'll respond until I feel I've said what I need to say, all the same. Also, I'm not trolling

[Dr. Nyquist]

You got a new driver for it, but it's still having a difficult time getting around the track because it's controversial right off the line....

the only controversy over Entity has been initiated by you, and it seems you're still trying to keep it going...

I feel shafted you didn't drop me a line when you started to rip into NexSyn - A product I put 3 years of my life into.

hence the libelous accusations?

How am I keeping it going?

What libelous accusations?

Yeah wolf! How DARE YOU point out things based on prior experience, knowledge, and facts! You're such a troll.

Oh wait, it's not YOU who's the troll...

careful, you're coming awfully close to defecating, er I mean defamation.

you THUG you!

[Meffy]

I don't think anyone involved in this discussion is trolling, but I do think the suspicions have been dealt with, there's too much interpersonal stuff that I feel would better be handled in PM, and further angsting is unlikely to do much good.

I won't "have the last word," though. My connection with Entity involves a few months of work done on speculation in hopes the synth would be successful. I suppose that's a vested interest, if vesting can be done without putting in funds, so although for obvious reasons I find it distressing to see a thread about the synth turn into a rehash of old disputes, it would be inappropriate for me to lock the thread unless things turned considerably worse. [edit: I'll have to trust everyone involved not to take it there. Anyone who would like to make me look bad could force the issue, I suppose.]

[trimph1]

uuummmmm...one question...is the demo still available?

After all this rigmarol I'm left wondering whether it is/was?