KVR Audio

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:34 pm

Somebody mentioned Energy XT above and I have to give the dev due credit ... the "Drum Track" step edit thing there for drum patterns is pretty damn clever.

One of the most logical ideas I've seen lately. It's pretty ripe for "ripping" from "the big boys".

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:43 pm

And I remember when Studio One was Kristal Audio Engine and it was free.....

synthgeek · Post by **synthgeek** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:08 pm

osiris wrote:And I remember when Studio One was Kristal Audio Engine and it was free.....

It still is.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:32 pm

yeah, if you can get by with 16 audio tracks....
sometimes less is more.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:38 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
luckystrike wrote:
gpunk wrote:Oh so you are just trolling for the sake of it, sorry for a second there i thought you knew what you where talking about
You are immoral enough to admire nerd copycat for the perfect copying of one products. Do they pay well for calling people who has some common sense in KVR troll?
I agree with this guy.
I'm going nowhere near Bitwig on principle.

At the very least it may light a fire under the butts of the people at Ableton to add some much needed features. I can't for the life of me figure out why, after all these years, they never implemented a UI that would work across two monitors. So... if Live 9 does... will it be a rip-off of Bitwig?

I also much prefer the UI look of Bitwig than Live's "flat" approach. Call me crazy, but we all grow up learning that buttons are things that pop out a little from the chassis and are to be pushed. When quickly scanning a UI it helps to have visual cues as to what's just information and what's interface, which Ableton doesn't do very well at all, IMO. Though, I do like Live's workflow a lot. Always have.

But yeah, it looks a LOT like "Live 9." Like someone asked me, "What would you change or add to Live" and then they just did it. So that's exciting to me. But it's no different than when Toyota looked at the Insight and said, "Hey, that's a good idea, let's make one that's better." Even funnier when Honda responded by making their Insight look almost exactly like a Prius. (man I wish they make a Natural Gas Insight or CR-Z, but I digress) ...and so goes the innovation cycle in a competitive business. It's how things become better. Also, if it works out that I love all of the things and innovations in Bitwig I don't have to learn a totally new paradigm of working.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:41 pm

From the screenshots am I right in thinking that, unlike Live, the clips in the session view (or whatever they call their version) seem to be just samples? At least I can't see any that contain virtual instruments. More like in Project 5 than Live if that's the case.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:26 pm

aMUSEd wrote:From the screenshots am I right in thinking that, unlike Live, the clips in the session view (or whatever they call their version) seem to be just samples? At least I can't see any that contain virtual instruments. More like in Project 5 than Live if that's the case.

Some seem to have midi in them.
So exactly like Live.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:29 pm

spaceman wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:From the screenshots am I right in thinking that, unlike Live, the clips in the session view (or whatever they call their version) seem to be just samples? At least I can't see any that contain virtual instruments. More like in Project 5 than Live if that's the case.
Some seem to have midi in them.
So exactly like Live.

Good - I couldn't see any. I hope then it does have the capability of recording VST automation with the midi - something that Live doesn't have and can't seem to provide due to some obscure architectural issue which the major limitation for me.

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:08 pm

osiris wrote:yeah, if you can get by with 16 audio tracks....
sometimes less is more.

that's at least 4 more than I've ever used in a track in 10 years....

(admittedly. I'm not much of a recording person).

trackzone · Post by **trackzone** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:23 pm

claes@vemberaudio wrote:claes & the bitwigs

hey, burikusu!!! sounds great. listening to year 2080 currently. probably you wanted to say bitwig was backtransformed from year 2080 to year 2012?

synthgeek · Post by **synthgeek** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:43 pm

osiris wrote:yeah, if you can get by with 16 audio tracks....
sometimes less is more.

Was it not always like that? I tried it several years ago, but never really used it... I got the impression from their FAQ that it hadn't been changed, but I guess maybe so.

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:58 pm

looks nice, but i'm pretty sure ableton have ground to sue, its just a copy of live with scene name on the left instead of right, i see no difference(besides the fact that it's WAY too dark looking)

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:17 pm

Muzik 4 Machines wrote:looks nice, but i'm pretty sure ableton have ground to sue, its just a copy of live with scene name on the left instead of right, i see no difference(besides the fact that it's WAY too dark looking)

if thats the case,shouldnt Avid sue apple?apple sue steinberg,steinberg sue cakewalk etc

trackzone · Post by **trackzone** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 pm

to sue or not to sue, that is the question.

ableton needs

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:28 pm

Guys, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have worked so long on this if they wouldn't have made sure everything is ok.

Cheers
Dennis

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