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murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:27 pm

IncarnateX wrote:However development is not over, so where we are in about 200 years cannot be predicted. Possibilities are endless from a psychological perspective.

i wonder which "development is not over" you talking about, we use the same scales like the classical composers 200 years ago.

in 200 years the people will still hear classical composers (and use the same scales of course).

if some aliens landing here looking like you, then its of course another story - maybe they invent a new culture?

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:24 pm

jancivil wrote:I'm not a 'theoretician', certainly.
There is scarely any such thing as 'music theory'. The word 'theory' connotes some kind of scientific endeavor or something like it, and music isn't done like that usually. 'Music theory' happens when we codify practice, make what happened [which is believed to work consistently and well] available in terms for study, and in order to form language in order to convey the sense of what you're DOING

Yup. That is what I get from Deutch's article as well. Music theory arises when you analyze music already composed to find out what happens in it. Fortunately this confirms that the development of music basically happens on terms of exactly the music and not anything apart from- or over and above it. Composers compose and that's it. However according to Deutch the music theory of the past was often conducted with the (misguided) purpose of finding prescriptive mathematical universals. So it strikes me that the approach offered by the math theorists in this thread is not anything new at all. Actually it seems to be a very conservative approach that in my view also become deeply reactionary to music as a free ever evolving art form. Math of music should at best be applied as descriptions and not explanantions and even less as instructions.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:28 pm

murnau wrote:i wonder which "development is not over" you talking about, we use the same scales like the classical composers 200 years ago.

in 200 years the people will still hear classical composers (and use the same scales of course).

if some aliens landing here looking like you, then its of course another story - maybe they invent a new culture?

Yes classical music like techno and industrial. You are a genius. Now shouldn't you get off your mother's PC and get out of the trailer before she returns with another customer? Or else she may not share her crack with you tonight.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:37 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
murnau wrote:i wonder which "development is not over" you talking about, we use the same scales like the classical composers 200 years ago.

in 200 years the people will still hear classical composers (and use the same scales of course).

if some aliens landing here looking like you, then its of course another story - maybe they invent a new culture?
Yes classical music like techno and industrial. You are a genius. Now shouldn't you get off your mother's PC and get out of the trailer before she returns with another customer? Or else she may not share her crack with you tonight.

you claim to be a psychologist? follow your answers i would say you need one by yourself: any oedipus tendencys? it's easy to read between the lines when you think you insulted me. you are a pretty poor guy.

ps. classical music like techno and indstrial? how smart.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:48 pm

murnau wrote: you claim to be a psychologist? follow your answers i would say you need one by yourself.

ps. classical music like techno and indstrial how smart.

Whatever. This discussion is probably too boring for an omnipotent genius like you. Go enjoy a cross lighting instead with your friends.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:53 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
murnau wrote: you claim to be a psychologist? follow your answers i would say you need one by yourself.

ps. classical music like techno and indstrial how smart.
Whatever. This discussion is probably too boring for an omnipotent genius like you. Go enjoy a cross lighting instead with your friends.

no, i quite enjoyed what the others wrote. feel free not to reply to the genius and all is fine i would say.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:09 pm

murnau wrote: no, i quite enjoyed what the others wrote. feel free not to reply to the genius and all is fine i would say.

No it is not fine and I am going to answer you as deserved if you adress me with that pathetic conceited superior attitude of yours. However if you stay away from me and not ever quote me again in any context, we are square.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:18 pm

IncarnateX wrote:
murnau wrote: no, i quite enjoyed what the others wrote. feel free not to reply to the genius and all is fine i would say.
No it is not fine and I am going to answer you as deserved if you adress me with that pathetic conceited superior attitude of yours. However if you stay away from me and not ever quote me again in any context, we are square.

you started to quote me so what?.. ..and your "answers" aren't any and while we there keep your dirty fingers away from my mum and everything will turn fine for you. otherwise you desereve something complete different for sure.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:25 pm

murnau wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:
murnau wrote: no, i quite enjoyed what the others wrote. feel free not to reply to the genius and all is fine i would say.
No it is not fine and I am going to answer you as deserved if you adress me with that pathetic conceited superior attitude of yours. However if you stay away from me and not ever quote me again in any context, we are square.
you started to quote me so what?.. ..and your "answers" aren't any and while we there keep your dirty fingers away from my mum and everything will turn fine for you. otherwise you desereve something complete different for sure.

Have you such a short memory span that you can not even remember a few post back with regard to who that adressed who in the first place? And I wouldn't touch your mum for anything in the world. Rest assured of that

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:28 pm

well, this is productive...

why dont you both just leave it.
please

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:37 pm

IncarnateX wrote:Have you such a short memory span that you can not even remember a few post back with regard to who that adressed who in the first place?

i know well but you must have a serious mind problem. maybe you check again prior writing next time?

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:38 pm

vurt wrote:well, this is productive...

why dont you both just leave it.
please

good advice..please folks, it's bad enough when it's on topic in here..
leave moms and everything else out.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:46 pm

murnau wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:Have you such a short memory span that you can not even remember a few post back with regard to who that adressed who in the first place?
i know well but you must have a serious mind problem. maybe you check again prior writing next time?

well you entered the thread implying that all who take the topic serious are idiots. And that would imply me, so no, there is no problems but those of your own.

MadBrain · Post by **MadBrain** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:53 pm

This thread doesn't make any sense anymore... also, what's with the personal insults?

mfbradt · Post by **mfbradt** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:59 pm

Why our scales have seven notes? Because:

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, all good children go to heaven!

why our scales have seven notes, part 2