Help me understand Fruity Loops

[Mirabebe]

Thanks. I wasn't clear on definition. What do you mean by *support* of direct monitoring? So that software can simply unmute the input for you, effectively doing what you can do by opening a mixer applet?

When you posted it - it sounded like some kind of critical feature is missing - but now i am not sure it's critical

[fleetmouse]

Thanks. I wasn't clear on definition. What do you mean by *support* of direct monitoring? So that software can simply unmute the input for you, effectively doing what you can do by opening a mixer applet?

When you posted it - it sounded like some kind of critical feature is missing - but now i am not sure it's critical

Only problem then is if I have unmuted the hardware mixer's input, and I want to record audio in FL, I'll be hearing it twice - once from the FL mixer with a very slight delay and once from the hardware mixer. Unless there's a way to route audio away from the mixer master track as you're recording it in FL?

Also, if the application controls the direct monitoring, the audio input disappears as soon as you stop monitoring from the application. Handy if you're recording noisy sources.

[Mirabebe]

Only problem then is if I have unmuted the hardware mixer's input, and I want to record audio in FL, I'll be hearing it twice - once from the FL mixer with a very slight delay and once from the hardware mixer. Unless there's a way to route audio away from the mixer master track as you're recording it in FL?


Yeah, route the bus that you are recording to another bus and mute it (so that it never reaches Master - so it will never play, however it will still record). Since you can record more than one bus at a time - you can do various tricks when combined with routing - like record dry signal and wet signal separately.

Also, if the application controls the direct monitoring, the audio input disappears as soon as you stop monitoring from the application. Handy if you're recording noisy sources.

But the downside - that you can't hear the wet signal when you play.

Well i agree it can be useful - just doubt that the benefit will be worth the effort, since some much more exciting things are in the works. It was probably much more relevant when latencies were high - but nowadays with less than 5ms latencies - it's nothing to get excited about.

[bewing77]

I honest to god don't understand anything of FL. I fired the demo up, watched the demo song playing for a while, and then thought to my self "well, lets't try to record a small piece from a hw synth". Made a new project. Rambled about the interface for 10 minutes without figuring out how to add a new midi track, let alone how to record to it and getting it to playback to the correct midi device I closed it.

Diversity is great, but in this case I really really don't get the point. The pianoroll looks nice though...

[Mirabebe]

What would be the point if it worked like Cubase if it's not called Cubase? It's meant to be different, however if you like Cubase - then of course there would be little point for you. Nothing wrong with that.

[quincy]

I was very lucky recently, and managed to legally purchase nearly the entire FLStudio XXL and a bunch of extras for about £50. I have been using it for a little while, and i have to say i think i will be going back to Orion Platinum as my primary host, and keep FL for loop-rolling duties, and because i got all the cool VSTi's and stuff and lifetime updates - worth it for sytrus and Simsynth and drumsytnh live and the like.

My reason for going back is singular - I can't stand the way the pattern sequencing works. Its such a pain in the arse to do all the different patterns and arrange them. In Orion, i can do all my patterns for each generator and then put different patterns on the same track in the pattern sequencer bit.

In fruity, each pattern has its own lane, which just ends up being annoying. I am quite sad about this, beacuse i have to say that in nearly every other respect i think FL is one of the most powerful and flexible Music packages i've ever owned, and i would nevber criticise the developers as i think they've done a great job.

But to be honest, i haven't finished a single track since i've had it, and i rarely get past a few bars because i get really annoyed. I'm still glad i got it though, because i have a lifetime of updates to a great little program that i can use to make beats, and i can use the VSTi's and FL VSTi version in Orion if i like, never tried it to be honest!

Oh, and one other thing - the beat-slicer in Orion sampler is one of the best i've ever seen, you don't have to store the sliced beat anywhere, and each slice can go out to any one of upto 16 channels - genius.

Each to their own i guess, and choice is always good.

[Ization]

I've been using fruity for about 3 years now (off and on - and just for fun). I have a question about templates. Does anyone know how to create custom templates? I'd like to open FL and have my "favorite" samples and vsts automatically load up.

Thanks in advance!

[pheeleep]

ya,

Load up an empty Fl Studio project. add all the vst's, samples, etc.. then click file>save as

name the file "my template" for example..

Point it to projects>templates

Click save

Close Fl studio

Re-open fl studio

Done

If you ever are in a different template and want to open that one instead:

File>templates>my template

[Ization]

The template works! That was too easy.

[mauseoleum]

I honest to god don't understand anything of FL. I fired the demo up, watched the demo song playing for a while, and then thought to my self "well, lets't try to record a small piece from a hw synth". Made a new project. Rambled about the interface for 10 minutes without figuring out how to add a new midi track, let alone how to record to it and getting it to playback to the correct midi device I closed it.

Wowzers ... I feel for you, man.

Except such thing hapened between me and Reason.

[Ization]

Since I have received such a quick response with my previous question, I figured I'd post another.

Here is my situation:

I have recently purchased a new midi keyboard but I'm having problems getting my timing correct. As an example, say I am recording in the piano roll and when I am done, my last input may end up at the beginning of another beat. As a result, when I loop this, I end up with a quiet section. I have tried recording, re-recording over and over again trying different BPM settings, but I hardly ever get it right. What else can I do? Is there a way to equally stretch all the notes to cover the whole time frame?

Someone please help me!

[Squonk]

Apart from the obligatory "Looptalk is the right place to ask" select all the notes, hold down Shift, and drag the right edge of the last note left or right.

[Ization]

I've been asking at other sites for about a week to no avail.

Thank you much, that's awesome!

I'll also check out the "loop talk" section - I'm new to this site.

Thanks again.

Me You

[cptgone]

Fruity Loops is for fruitcakes and loopies.

(Ponders this...)

Where can I get my copy?

[P.T.]

Where it falls down for me is in it's recording timing. When recording live from my midi keyboard, FL always records early and the length of the notes is always somewhat shorter than what I'd recorded. I have to go back and edit each and every single note after recording in the piano roll. That and the lack of loop recording are the two major drawbacks to using FL for me. Those are the two main reasons why I still find a need to keep going back to Orion. I used FL for the entirety of 2003 and I almost forgot how refreshing it was to just play my midi keyboard with my loose timing and have it play back exactly precisely as I recorded it and I could move on to something else rather than having to go into the piano roll and fix it. Someone told me beforehand that this latest release of FL might have addressed this issue but I can't see that it has and there's nothing about it in the "what's new" text.

Is it possible that there is a quantizing feature turned on that you are unaware of?