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Kriminal wrote:Has anyone contacted FM about the subject?

Maybe they will print an apology...
As of now, they won't.

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Kriminal wrote:Has anyone contacted FM about the subject?

Maybe they will print an apology...
Or they could just copy their other excuses ("We will examine that, turns out that he lend his computer to another guy, he's not the only one with access to the studio, he has a valid licence but couldn't find it when reinstalling...")

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Hehe can someone confirm what percentage of ALL commercial released templates do actually NOT offer Sylenth presets? And why.. really? How come?
Probably because all those people who actually do use these templates actually did purchase Sylenth1, right? As they *purchased* these templates as well. Because they are ALL so goddamn good at their craft.. little wonder.
Of course, of course :hihi:
Let's say.. 'some years ago'.

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chk071 wrote:...it's more than likely that FM uses this kind of controversy to promote their mag. Otherwise they wouldn't publish the 10th video with artists using warez now.
I knew there was something I liked about you. You are very perceptive and straight up logical. You hit the nail right on the head. Those guys aren't stupid at FM. They are aware of the fact that controversy gets attention. This isn't the first time this has happened either so as you said... Thanks for closing this case. Fin!

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Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
I mean.. is there a CM version of Sylenth1?

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Urs wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Has anyone contacted FM about the subject?

Maybe they will print an apology...
As of now, they won't.
Well, i was being ever so slightly sarcastic... :hihi:

I assume you've spoken to them...

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She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

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Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

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So you're saying the magazine tries to lure advertising revenue by promoting that their demographic audience doesn't but the software that IS the advertising revenue?

I think you're missing something here.

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tehlord wrote:
Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.
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So you're saying the magazine tries to lure advertising revenue by promoting that their demographic audience doesn't but the software that IS the advertising revenue?
I think you're missing something here.
I never stated that I knew the reason why they do it. There just has to be some gain for them if they keep doing this over and over. You can't use the fact that they are stupid and not aware, so forget about that one. Would be good to know why they do this.

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Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

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Ah, now we have a point. FM was shooting the (10) vids and thought.. 'whatever.. this brutal promotion will not harm US!'
Shrewd, I must say. Because they expose the tip of a rather delicate subject as a bonus. Speaking of freebies. Which gives them a 'scoop' as well. Clever thinking all the way through.
After all they can say: 'hey..don't blame US; WE showed the facts!' Now.. that's something what counts!

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She Changed Her Mind wrote:
Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

.-.
Ah, now we have a point. FM was shooting the (10) vids and thought.. 'whatever.. this brutal promotion will not harm US!'
Shrewd, I must say. Because they expose the tip of a rather delicate subject as a bonus. Speaking of freebies. Which gives them a 'scoop' as well. Clever thinking all the way through.
After all they can say: 'hey..don't blame US; WE showed the facts!' Now.. that's something what counts!
That's one perception of it. :)

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Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

.-.
Haven't heard of the guy before, so at least for him its bad news/good news.

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tehlord wrote:
Orbit-50 wrote:
She Changed Her Mind wrote:Really.. what does FM promote, actually..???
FM promotes it's magazine (which earns them advertising revenue) and in this case, a controversial artist that uses cracked software and is proud of it.

.-.
So you're saying the magazine tries to lure advertising revenue by promoting that their demographic audience doesn't but the software that IS the advertising revenue?
May sound paradox, but my guess is that it's exactly that. :) Seriously, why would they publish a series of videos with artists using warezed plugins otherwise? It may happen to you once, then you get a lot of negative feedback, and publicity (bad publicity may be good publicity in this case), and then you double and triple check every shot of the artists plugins, so you can avoid showing "TEAM AiR" as the registered user name. It may even be weighing up the negative impact of your videos, and the plugin companies which will decided to not advertise on your mag anymore, or give you plugins for testing purposes, and the benefit of the bad publicity you get over yet another video with warezed stuff. The fact that it's always FM videos make me even more think that it could be the case that they do it intentionally.

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It is always about promotion. Heck, even if we talk "critical" down to "bad reports" about a company, it is free promotion.


Still - at this day and age, where tools don't cost an arm and a leg anymore, and especially if you earn a fair amount of money from what you do... why do that?! Especially if you have a company over videotaping what you're doing and therefore pulling even more attention to you.

This can only massively backfire and is not adding to your reputation.
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tehlord wrote: It doesn't matter whether the video showing an artist actually has the licence or not, there are legal implications to using the pirated version, let alone the publishers moral obligation NOT to 'as good as' condone using the pirated versions of software by flouting in their producer videos again and again.

edit - because you get utter morons (in this very thread for example) saying that this kind of thing is good promotion for plugin devs...but....whaa.... :dog:
Actually you are wrong on both accounts. First, having a legal license makes it perfectly ok to use a patched copy. Maybe not formally but certainly it's ok morally. For example when a piece of software uses annoying and/or malfunctioning copy protection there's nothing wrong in patching it out. Just one example: Korg Legacy, for some strange reason, needed re-authorization pretty much every time I opened Ableton and after disconnecting audio interface. Finally I just got so sick and tired re-authorizing it pretty much the every other day that I just had to solve this problem once and for all.
And second, it has been proven ten times over by a credible independent academic research into music and film piracy that the people who pirate most also buy most. So pirates are actually the best clients.

It seems that the topic of piracy generates a lot of moralistic holier-than-thou responses from people who have absolutely no idea about the academic work done in this field that paints quite different and more nuanced picture.
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