NEW Studio One v3 updates incoming.

[BushidoBroWWN]

All I really want for S1 is better cpu performance on mac & a way to easily organize tracks in the console. I'm not sure I'd call either of those things particularly groundbreaking but I'd rather that then new features I won't end up using.

[imprint]

I'd like to see them raise the bar by lowering the complexity of their offers. There are so many versions of S1, and while I can't even fathom how much or little work goes into making all those sandboxes, it seems like a gigantic waste of time to have Prime, Artist, Producer...etc...and some of those even have add-ons.

Not really. There's only one software product being developed afaict. What you see is things being on or off based on the license. Everyone who has it has the exact same software, it's the license that determines what features show up when you launch it, but it's all there. It also has no patches or anything else for updates and upgrades.

It's quite literally (platform dependent and x68/x64) all the same software. You can turn Prime into Pro (and vice versa) without installing anything but a new license file and re-launching it.

I get that it is actually one piece of software. And I wasn't challenging their right or ability to offer as many versions as they want. My suggestion was just minimize the offering, make it easier to understand and also overwhelming in terms of value for money - not just good or fair.

Sure, have a version that's low entry, be it Artist or whatever which is included with the cost of purchasing their hardware. But make that version at least on par with Garageband in terms of functions.

Apple has a model; Garage Band, Logic and Mainstage and perhaps an S1 version of the latter makes sense for deep and unique hardware integration. Those saying "Except for Logic..." are really missing the point because that is exactly the point. Could you increase sales and share by offering audacious value, and sell more at $199 (or whatever) than splitting the difference between high/low price points with random not included features?

[Vintage73]

Keep in mind that, depending on how powerful a machine you get, even Logic has a pretty high price of admission if you don't already have a Mac. Everyone and their sister has a PC, and PCs aren't all in one big system, like with Mac.

[Kalamata Kid]

If Presonus is going to tease us with the S1 V3.2 then
they should be kind enough to tease use with some
info on the improvements. Ok, Not all the details but
each day till the 25th add one more hint.

I'll be waiting tomorrow for the first installment.

[S-N-S]

i would like to see bezier curves in the automation

[LawrenceF]

I get that it is actually one piece of software. My suggestion was just minimize the offering

They only offer two versions (feature tiers) for sale, Artist & Pro. Not sure what you're asking exactly unless you're asking them to minimize it to only one.

Could you increase sales and share by offering audacious value, and sell more at $199 (or whatever) than splitting the difference between high/low price points with random not included features?

No clue. It's not my company and I have no idea what their sales (or "share" ?) are now or if they even need to be improved so... me guessing about all with no hard data would be pretty pointless.

[trimph1]

All I really want for S1 is better cpu performance on mac & a way to easily organize tracks in the console. I'm not sure I'd call either of those things particularly groundbreaking but I'd rather that then new features I won't end up using.

I think that S1 would be dynamite if that happened. The "groundbreaking" stuff should be a bonus...

[SWallace]

i would like to see bezier curves in the automation

Already has them for v3. Make 3 automation points. The pull the middle one down. Hover your mouse over one of the lines between the points. A open circle will appear. Drag that to change the shape of the curve.

I wish we could load normal midi vst/au plugins instead of just theirs. Nora and Cthulu are excellent but such a workflow killer to use in S1.

[Robert Randolph]

i would like to see bezier curves in the automation

Already has them for v3. Make 3 automation points. The pull the middle one down. Hover your mouse over one of the lines between the points. A open circle will appear. Drag that to change the shape of the curve.

I wish we could load normal midi vst/au plugins instead of just theirs. Nora and Cthulu are excellent but such a workflow killer to use in S1.

That's not bezier curves.

[LawrenceF]

Not sure about that. Bezier may describe the math used to make curves between points, not necessarly also having control handles to shape the curves.

I assume the latter is what he's asking for. But no point in arguing the semantics of that if he wants control handles.

Anyway, what S1 has is what seems to be a "quadratic bezier curve", a single control point.

[S-N-S]

i would like to see bezier curves in the automation

Already has them for v3. Make 3 automation points. The pull the middle one down. Hover your mouse over one of the lines between the points. A open circle will appear. Drag that to change the shape of the curve.

I wish we could load normal midi vst/au plugins instead of just theirs. Nora and Cthulu are excellent but such a workflow killer to use in S1.

ahh awesome,wasent aware of that to be honest:)

but yes control handles to shape the curves would be awesome,really like the way its in FL,really fast to work with.gotta go explore the way its in S1:)

[bungle]

Just think, all these fancy features, there was a time when you would create a preset and the damn host wouldn't let you name the creator of it, it would just take the name of something entirely else on the computer you are using, like the log in name hahahahaha, aaaaah the bad old days........oh wait

[imprint]

I get that it is actually one piece of software. My suggestion was just minimize the offering

They only offer two versions (feature tiers) for sale, Artist & Pro. Not sure what you're asking exactly unless you're asking them to minimize it to only one.

Could you increase sales and share by offering audacious value, and sell more at $199 (or whatever) than splitting the difference between high/low price points with random not included features?

No clue. It's not my company and I have no idea what their sales (or "share" ?) are now or if they even need to be improved so... me guessing about all with no hard data would be pretty pointless.

Good points. Just my perspective (on versioning and add-ons) and uninformed speculation about the consequences of a simplified price structure...which is why it is phrased as a question.

I like PreSonus and own a Firestudio Mobile as my interface and rave about the value for $ it brings to the party every time I get the chance. But alas, Artist is useless if I can't load anything other than internal instruments.

[SeeingInMidi]

just rewatched the teaser. I spotted a red fader, red fader = vca fader?

[Uncle E]

But alas, Artist is useless if I can't load anything other than internal instruments.

This I very much agree with you on. I don't think Presonus should minimize their offerings but I do think it would be great for them to expand Artist's capabilities.