KVR Audio

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:28 am

Big Audio Dynamite once said
"I wish I could sing like that. Not everything is singing you know.
The only important thing these days, is rhythm and melody. Rhythm...And melody.."

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:38 am

Unintentionally.
If you've found romance in waves crashing on a shore or in the sight of an eagle gliding into the sunset, it's all in your mind and your fault alone.

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:50 am

Yes, is the very easy answer to this thread question:

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:51 am

doesn't the mind determine what a melody is? Apart from the technical factors that say what a melody is (not going to bother googling it) but personal taste and our own interpretations determine if that "melody" is one we like and may him along to, or sing in the car et al, or forget it once it's finished or change stations on the car radio or streaming service. I for one detest "we built this city" and "achy breaky heart" yet clearly they sold enough records to merit airplay or MTV playback.. taste. It's universal and different from person to person, even from week to week.

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:56 am

To be serious: bit much of us mere humans to determine what is, or isn't, universal though.

If nothing else, our hearing range is shit compared to many other Earth animals, let alone possibly life in other parts of the universe.

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:57 am

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:02 am

^^ somewhere out there in deep space, songs based around 42hz will be the current 'thing'.

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:06 am

this is testing my memory but didn't NASA send a satellite containing some of our music into deep space with the hope that some alien life form may stumble over it (talk about needle/haystack) some years back?
I dearly hope it wasn't some MOR stuff, or Pantera, or K-Pop. In fact - I'd like to know what intergalactic planetary life forms would think of some of our musical genres.. Now that is truly "universal" and not just Global.

Anyone on KVR from a planet besides mother earth?

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:10 am

emcee wrote:this is testing my memory but didn't NASA send a satellite containing some of our music into deep space with the hope that some alien life form may stumble over it (talk about needle/haystack) some years back?
I dearly hope it wasn't some MOR stuff, or Pantera, or K-Pop. In fact - I'd like to know what intergalactic planetary life forms would think of some of our musical genres.. Now that is truly "universal" and not just Global.

Anyone on KVR from a planet besides mother earth?

I'm pretty sure that it was classical. That's why the aliens haven't visited, they think that earthlings are stuffy and don't know how to party.

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:13 am

Plus there's no way to air guitar to classical, especially with zero gravity and no atmosphere.

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:14 am

Unless your interpretation of classical is Bohemian Rhapsody of course..

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:15 am

Doug1978 wrote:Yes, is the very easy answer to this thread question:

Those aren't really "sounds" from outer space though. They are modulations of a carrier. Granted, we can elevate them to sounds, but that takes a bit of an argument. Moreover, sound isn't necessarily music. To qualify as music the sound has to at least be intended as music, that's a tough argument to say that the universe has some sort of artistic intent. Granted, we may hear it as musical, or think of it as artistic in some way, that doesn't mean that music is universal. Sound is, of course, universal in that it's just vibrations of molecules in a medium at a particular frequency. This happens everywhere that has the appropriate physical conditions.

emcee · Post by **emcee** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:29 am

Like a theremin for example..

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:05 am

ghettosynth wrote:
Doug1978 wrote:Yes, is the very easy answer to this thread question:

Those aren't really "sounds" from outer space though. They are modulations of a carrier. Granted, we can elevate them to sounds, but that takes a bit of an argument. Moreover, sound isn't necessarily music. To qualify as music the sound has to at least be intended as music, that's a tough argument to say that the universe has some sort of artistic intent. Granted, we may hear it as musical, or think of it as artistic in some way, that doesn't mean that music is universal. Sound is, of course, universal in that it's just vibrations of molecules in a medium at a particular frequency. This happens everywhere that has the appropriate physical conditions.

Maybe for the first one, but you can't argue against the Star Wars Cantina Band being universal.

And yes, some of us are big fans of Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes.

Admittedly I'm less convinced about the Red Dwarf crew's music, but at least they gave it a go

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:15 am

The "music is universal" saying is not about whether people like it all the same...universally, but that music notation is a universal language.
Though I'm guessing we've established this much, and have moved on to the sarcasm at this point?

Is Music Really Universal?