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jens wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:14 pm
Saffran wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:22 am
lfm wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:05 am I still feel Cakewalk has lost its ways....
Same here.
I have this bad feeling that coders have left and the replacement isn't up to the task.
:shrug:
Noel is still at the helm and has been since about forever - he's been with Cakewalk since before Sonar.
It's sweet of you defending Sonar daw. However, can you swear that no coders have left?

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Saffran wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:25 pm It's sweet of you defending Sonar daw.
I'm not in the defense businesss - just stating the facts
However, can you swear that no coders have left?
What question is that? How could I? - I don 't work for their HR department after all.

Can you swear the same about any DAW-developing company (okay, the really small ones like Cockos and Mulab aside - and even with these we don't really know for certain who exactly is doing what)? Sorry, but that's a profoundly silly and naive question.

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I remember Noel, Seth and Brandon and think Craig Anderton was closely affiliated as well.
- but which are coders?

Thinking how Windows works
- press Windows button
- start typing and loads of examples, often recently used first, come up
- this might be a quicker way

But if they built their own language model and start with full words only like "bounce" as in example above?

So if you type
- "bo" and loads of options come up with "bounce", could be fast way
- and learning from "internal recently used" list etc
- maybe I judge on too little information

Sonar Artist 2015 is the only daw I have installed. Great daw....with quirks I can live with...Windows updates stopped a year ago so nothing changes, it should work.....

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jens wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:10 pm
telecharge wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 9:10 pm Sonar got an update about a week ago because... AI :borg:
Because AI? What is that supposed to mean?
Just that they jumped on the AI bandwagon.

If you can't beat them, join them, I reckon. :-?

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telecharge wrote: Wed Dec 17, 2025 3:46 am
jens wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:10 pm
telecharge wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 9:10 pm Sonar got an update about a week ago because... AI :borg:
Because AI? What is that supposed to mean?
Just that they jumped on the AI bandwagon.

If you can't beat them, join them, I reckon. :-?
Yeah, you can dismiss this new feature as AI if that's your thing... :shrug:

(Not the first and certainly neither the last time people partake in stupid trends without even first engaging as much as a single brain cell and talking irritating crap while being at it :shrug:)

Oh, look - here's me, defending Sonar once again... (And I don't even like the thing) :lol:

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lfm wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:46 pm I remember Noel, Seth and Brandon and think Craig Anderton was closely affiliated as well.
- but which are coders?
Noel yes. Don't remember Seth without a last name. Brandon was a demo guy. Anderton is technical but AFAIK hasn't coded for DAWS.
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mumpcake wrote: Wed Dec 17, 2025 3:24 pm Anderton is technical but AFAIK hasn't coded for DAWS.
He did macros and stuff - he also invented Quadrafuzz by the way...

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BandLab is offering a one-year sub for Cakewalk Sonar for $70 USD, and allegedly there's a flash sale to get it discounted further by a whopping $3.00 :!: -- making it $67, but no one seems to be get that to work - https://bnd.la/eoy-flashdeal

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Totally hypothetical, but imagine if Nuno Bettencourt said:
“Yeah, we write on SONAR. I just sub for a month when we’re in production — the rest of the time I’m on the free tier lol.”
SONAR’s perceived value would skyrocket overnight.
But hey, it doesn’t have to be Nuno — any big-name artist would do. 😄

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