They're supprisingly harder to make than one would think, I thouroughly f*cked up two of them, but then again I'm a perfectionist when it comes to woodwork.Lunch Money wrote:Yup, I had a look and listen! Very cool! I want to know how to make one, now. Next time I order wood for a guitar, I may have to order some to make a box, too.
No, thanks, I'll just buy the instrument.
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- KVRian
- 1244 posts since 21 Nov, 2003 from San Francisco
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Ever try making a guitar? I'm working on one right now and I'm horribly short of tools. It seems a router is the multi-use tool I have to get by on. 
Join us at http://projectguitar.ibforums.com if you're ever in the mood. I just go by GregP there.
Greg
Join us at http://projectguitar.ibforums.com if you're ever in the mood. I just go by GregP there.
Greg
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fateamenabletochange fateamenabletochange https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8029 - KVRAF
- 3062 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
table tops can also be used to great effect....the tone is different at the edge cf.the middle.And there really are folk who record ,sample ,mangle rubber bands twanging ,paper clips spprringing.I suppose in music there are no mistakes,and even painting by numbers and twiddling idly with a gui can provide magic that is qualitatively and quantitatively a leap that defies description.Damn,where's funkendunken parsons when I need him,but I think it is all in the maths,which apply to things made of wood,and 0's and 1's crosstalk/feedback on a computer,and moaning to lost Balken love songs.Something in nature sets it up so that sound is pleasing.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Got a spare warehouse or concert hall, some wire, and a few pickups or resonators? I've got three words for you:
Long String Instrument.
Paul Panhuysen's Long String Instrument
Long String Instrument.
Paul Panhuysen's Long String Instrument
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- KVRist
- 210 posts since 20 Oct, 2003
The fact that you can never truly get the original tone can make for a slightly off sound, which can be charming all of itself. Sometimes I try to emulate a harp on my Chapman Stick, only to find myself playing something quite different. It's all in good fun. The most important thing is that it leads to some nice music in the endLunch Money wrote:I understand how it's handy to be able to play a different instrument's 'sounds' using your instrument of choice. Or even if keyboard isn't your instrument of choice, it's still an accessible tool for any musician in order to enter information into a sequencer.
What I DON'T quite get is trying to marry two foreign things together. The most obvious example-- keyboard, trying to play strummed chords. Or, from the other side, a guitar trying to emulate a piano.
It CAN be done. It's been proven. I'll even grant that it's been done well, despite dissenting opinions. I actually heard a keyboard-played guitar solo that convinced me, though that's a bit different than strummed chords. But why would you try to emulate strumming, when the alternative is so much easier?
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
Not to start a SOAD thing here, but I thought this was kind of interesting (from an interveiw with Daron Malakian in the latest Wired):
"Like, for one song, I put together a room where I covered the walls and the ceiling with dozens of acoustic guitars. I set it up so that the noise that came out of my amp resonated with the vibration of all the guitar strings in the room and created this really unique tone."
Man, the thought of all those guitars with spikes through 'em! I'd have thought micing the amp with an electric fan would do the job easier and cheaper! But really, I like this sort of experimentation.
Tom
"Like, for one song, I put together a room where I covered the walls and the ceiling with dozens of acoustic guitars. I set it up so that the noise that came out of my amp resonated with the vibration of all the guitar strings in the room and created this really unique tone."
Man, the thought of all those guitars with spikes through 'em! I'd have thought micing the amp with an electric fan would do the job easier and cheaper! But really, I like this sort of experimentation.
Tom
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- 55 posts since 7 Aug, 2002 from London
I gotta agree with the guy who feels he's "cheating" when just using piano rolls etc.. I've got a selection of guitars, a bass and a keyboard. I never use any guitar samples (unless I'm meaning for it to sounds a bit synthetic), but I will sometimes use bass samples or draw out a keyboard part. Sometimes it is just easier that way, but I definitely get a buzz when I know I played the part myself and recorded it. Sometimes my timing is a bit out when playing the bass, so I think "sod this!" and just do it on the keyboard and then quantize it!
The thing I find with samples and VSTi's is that for a solo-composer such as myself, they can be a lot more 'immediate' and can either stay in the song, or act as a sketch of what I would want to play myself. Immediacy can be really valuable when I'm feeling creative - it is much easier if you're in a band and you can bounce ideas off other people, with everyone playing their own instrument. Self-composing has it's serious drawback here in the fact that you might have an idea in your head, but you have to slowly record each bit of it at a time - I find I have to be quite disciplined to stay with an idea when the process can be quite slow. I'll quite often sketch out the bass with a Sonic Synth, and then record the real thing later - something which can take more time. I could never sketch a guitar part with a keyboard though - the guitar is such an expressive instrument - something that keyboard can lack in IMO, unless you get into some hardcore programming to give it more nuances. The latest edition of Sound on Sounds puts this into words pretty well - Paul White's article at http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/a ... leader.htm is interesting reading, and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.
The thing I find with samples and VSTi's is that for a solo-composer such as myself, they can be a lot more 'immediate' and can either stay in the song, or act as a sketch of what I would want to play myself. Immediacy can be really valuable when I'm feeling creative - it is much easier if you're in a band and you can bounce ideas off other people, with everyone playing their own instrument. Self-composing has it's serious drawback here in the fact that you might have an idea in your head, but you have to slowly record each bit of it at a time - I find I have to be quite disciplined to stay with an idea when the process can be quite slow. I'll quite often sketch out the bass with a Sonic Synth, and then record the real thing later - something which can take more time. I could never sketch a guitar part with a keyboard though - the guitar is such an expressive instrument - something that keyboard can lack in IMO, unless you get into some hardcore programming to give it more nuances. The latest edition of Sound on Sounds puts this into words pretty well - Paul White's article at http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/a ... leader.htm is interesting reading, and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.