I noticed that. I don't think there are any reviews of the newly included Logic Plugs for Logic 7 in the reviews section.tetraplan wrote:KVR is very Windows-centric, I suppose.
Groet, Erik
yet another "What's your host?" thread
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
Well I considered mac and logic at one time.......maybe it's much better but.........
$3000...mac dual g5 (iguess dual 2.7 now) plus $1000 for logic 7 pro = about what I've spent with all the plug ins/hardware/controlers/coffee I bought in the last year. (well that coffee might put it well in excess of that actually......)
I"d have to be able to demo both long term before I bought......no way to do that......that's why I have to be windows and I think that is why allot of people are windows.
$3000...mac dual g5 (iguess dual 2.7 now) plus $1000 for logic 7 pro = about what I've spent with all the plug ins/hardware/controlers/coffee I bought in the last year. (well that coffee might put it well in excess of that actually......)
I"d have to be able to demo both long term before I bought......no way to do that......that's why I have to be windows and I think that is why allot of people are windows.
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
i would suggest that KVR merely reflects its target demographic ...deggy wrote:I noticed that. I don't think there are any reviews of the newly included Logic Plugs for Logic 7 in the reviews section.tetraplan wrote:KVR is very Windows-centric, I suppose.
Groet, Erik
(ducks)
... which is probably MAINLY hobbyist / semi-pro who i would guess are LIKELY to be windows based since its what most people getting into this would already have access to at home ???
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- KVRian
- 903 posts since 14 May, 2003
Sibelius for MIDI and SX as host for recording, assembly and mixing, with Reason and Bidule in ReWire. Also, FL Studio for patterning and Acid Pro for loop sequencing. Wavelab for editing.
Incidently, I'm a pro and I use a WinXP machine. I know a lot of pros who do. I know alot of pro wannabes who use Macs too. What's important is knowing as much as you can about music, especially how to score, unless, of course, your part of the "three chords and the 'truth'" crowd.
Incidently, I'm a pro and I use a WinXP machine. I know a lot of pros who do. I know alot of pro wannabes who use Macs too. What's important is knowing as much as you can about music, especially how to score, unless, of course, your part of the "three chords and the 'truth'" crowd.
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
definatly, I believe windows has become a great format. Plus (and I am really really really not trying to piss off mac users here) I see so many problems keeping up with all the different operating systems...
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
Yeah, I know a couple "pros", and many hobbyists and "wannabes" for both platforms (mac and pc). I don't think it really matters that much. I mean, sure mac does kinda cost more (I should know because I just made the jump to mac recently) but then Logic 7 does come with a whole bunch of supposedly semi-decent plugs so I guess this kinda compensates for some of the extra money (but not all of it of course). Like I mentioned earlier on in this thread, I've even met the odd so-called "pro" who used Buzz and FLS for some projects they were working on. + I hear a lot of great tracks nowadays, and I am no longer surprised when I find out that X or Y producer uses fruity and has a deal with a large indie label and has sold X amount of records.bugs wrote:Incidently, I'm a pro and I use a WinXP machine. I know a lot of pros who do. I know alot of pro wannabes who use Macs too. What's important is knowing as much as you can about music, especially how to score, unless, of course, your part of the "three chords and the 'truth'" crowd.
Many great vstis are made for both platforms. And to my ears, I can't really hear any difference in the "sound quality" between Logic and Cubase (when using the same audio interface) and I can't think of any reason why such a difference would exist (not that that means anything of course). So, I assume that there is an insane amount of hype surrounding any host or platform. It's just cool to see what people around here use.
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
While I'm at it, why hasn’t anyone reviewed any of the Waves stuff either. At least these plugs are actually mentioned in the Effects section. However, next to nobody has written a review. Weird.deggy wrote:
I noticed that. I don't think there are any reviews of the newly included Logic Plugs for Logic 7 in the reviews section.
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Nuisances Sonores Nuisances Sonores https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2730
- KVRist
- 285 posts since 10 May, 2002
Hmm, I look upon reviews of anything like a bucket of various diarrheas and pukes stirred ... then I throw a spade of salt in and later I pick the floating pieces with my rusty spoon to taste.
If you know or spot people " around your tastes " you can save some time and money.
To answer the initial question, I'am now more than quite happy ( and I hope for long ) on the Samplitude boat.
If you know or spot people " around your tastes " you can save some time and money.
To answer the initial question, I'am now more than quite happy ( and I hope for long ) on the Samplitude boat.
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
Yep, it's hard......cause you don't know who's towing the party line, who's being PAID and who's just stupid.
If I knew then what eyeknow now...........
This samplitude thing is intreaging......eyeknow it cost's some cash......but I'm hearing more "buzz" about it. Glad you like it......
Wait, am I falling for a REVIEW??/
If I knew then what eyeknow now...........
This samplitude thing is intreaging......eyeknow it cost's some cash......but I'm hearing more "buzz" about it. Glad you like it......
Wait, am I falling for a REVIEW??/
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
For composing stuff I find Ableton Live 4 fantastic. It already includes enough for me to have chosen it as my main sequencing host. With the additions announced for v5 I doubt I'll ever look back. I have tried nearly all of the hosts mentioned in this thread and for me Live is by far the fastest, and has the best balance between ease of use and power features.
For initial MIDI sequencing I often use Sibelius 3 and work in notation (I am first and foremost a classical musician).
For audio editing, mastering, and multitrack audio projects I don;t hesitate to use and recommend Adobe Audition - very fast, excellent results, top-drawer effects.
I use Reason 2.5 as an instrument mostly, as it's a great package if you want to acquire a few good synths/samplers/etc for starting out with. Also the developers have great support for education market (I also teach).
Lastly, I have Tracktion 2. But I've had lots of problems with it (some due to known "issues" with the software itself, some due to me no doubt...) Also I concur with the various others in the thread who have pointed out that Mackie have a slightly odd approach to marketing and customer relations, and the one-man developer now spends much of his time on other projects.
For initial MIDI sequencing I often use Sibelius 3 and work in notation (I am first and foremost a classical musician).
For audio editing, mastering, and multitrack audio projects I don;t hesitate to use and recommend Adobe Audition - very fast, excellent results, top-drawer effects.
I use Reason 2.5 as an instrument mostly, as it's a great package if you want to acquire a few good synths/samplers/etc for starting out with. Also the developers have great support for education market (I also teach).
Lastly, I have Tracktion 2. But I've had lots of problems with it (some due to known "issues" with the software itself, some due to me no doubt...) Also I concur with the various others in the thread who have pointed out that Mackie have a slightly odd approach to marketing and customer relations, and the one-man developer now spends much of his time on other projects.
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
misinformation ...headquest wrote:and the one-man developer now spends much of his time on other projects.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
from Computer Music #85, April 2005:pHz wrote:misinformation ...headquest wrote:and the one-man developer now spends much of his time on other projects.
slainte
CM: "Will you be developing other software, or is your focus firmly on Tracktion?
Julian Storer: "Yes, I've got other ideas in the pipeline - Juce, my geeky C++ library ... and a fun little audio app that I'd like to release in about 6 months time, and then possibly a much bigger and more ambitious audio project after that..."
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
yeah ... i know that ... but nowhere does it say hes putting T on the backburner to spend "much of his time" on these other things ...
... misinformation was in the implication ... not the facts ...
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rob
... misinformation was in the implication ... not the facts ...
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
I think that is obvious from the quote (and I consciously refrained from pointing out the fact that bugs reported two years ago still aren't fixedpHz wrote:yeah ... i know that ... but nowhere does it say hes putting T on the backburner to spend "much of his time" on these other things ...
. Oh, damn 
)What implication? Please don't put words in my mouth or claim I was saying something that I didn't say... misinformation was in the implication ... not the facts ...
slainte
The original post simply asked what people are using and for their impressions/opinions. I gave my personal opinion of the five programs I currently own, including how I use them and why. Just my opinions, mate