LuSH-101

[pdxindy]

Very nice review!

Multi thread support is a MUST for this synth to function correctly.

Great potential not fully realized.

+1

How many vsts actually use multithread - seems to be very much overlooked by the devs considering the way vsts are moving forward.

Not many do... and not many need to as many hosts are multicore capable... in this case, Lush is basically multiple instances of the synth in one... but where two instances on two tracks in the host uses multiple cores automatically, here the multiple instances are built into Lush so it becomes particularly important.

Some of the included presets in Lush are simply unusable for me and I have a 2.8ghz i7

I can work around this by loading 2 instances of Lush and loading the same preset and disabling some layers in each...

[Nighthawk77]

Very nice review!

Multi thread support is a MUST for this synth to function correctly.

Great potential not fully realized.

+1

I can work around this by loading 2 instances of Lush and loading the same preset and disabling some layers in each...

Its a shame to have to "WORK AROUND" a synth just to use a reduced amount of its capabilities.

Many synths just don't need Multi thread capabilities, this one absolutely does.

On most systems, Lush can load 2-3 layers before maxing out. Its nice that it has such capabilities, it would be better if they were implemented in a way that worked.

I think many folks here are saying the same thing...."Nice synth, needs more work." (IE. Multi Thread Support)

[grabme]

Very nice review!

Multi thread support is a MUST for this synth to function correctly.

Great potential not fully realized.

+1

I can work around this by loading 2 instances of Lush and loading the same preset and disabling some layers in each...

Its a shame to have to "WORK AROUND" a synth just to use a reduced amount of its capabilities.

Many synths just don't need Multi thread capabilities, this one absolutely does.

On most systems, Lush can load 2-3 layers before maxing out. Its nice that it has such capabilities, it would be better if they were implemented in a way that worked.

I think many folks here are saying the same thing...."Nice synth, needs more work." (IE. Multi Thread Support)

Just what would you do with a real sh101?

[Nighthawk77]

Very nice review!

Multi thread support is a MUST for this synth to function correctly.

Great potential not fully realized.

+1

I can work around this by loading 2 instances of Lush and loading the same preset and disabling some layers in each...

Its a shame to have to "WORK AROUND" a synth just to use a reduced amount of its capabilities.

Many synths just don't need Multi thread capabilities, this one absolutely does.

On most systems, Lush can load 2-3 layers before maxing out. Its nice that it has such capabilities, it would be better if they were implemented in a way that worked.

I think many folks here are saying the same thing...."Nice synth, needs more work." (IE. Multi Thread Support)

Just what would you do with a real sh101?

Ofcourse a real sh101 is a fully fledged hardware synth, not a plugin.
So i guess my answer is, "whatever I want."

BUT to give Lush its due credit, it is capable of doing more and therefore demands more power.

I believe it will arrive as the devs develop it more.

[SoulState]

Just checked this synth...
Nice sound, BUT...
BUT, BUT...

The envelopes ARE WEAK, because of that sound lack "balls"...
Envelopes very, VERY WEAK!
Only because of that - this synth goes in trash can... Just not usable...
Because of weak envelopes any sound lacks punch, especially basses...

And miserable abilities of modulation routing...
...And MONO supersaw osc... WTF?
This synth needs improvement, then i will buy it. But not in current condition.

[fmr]

Just what would you do with a real sh101?

Not much. That's why I never got one, or wanted to.

[Mutant]

Just checked this synth...
Nice sound, BUT...
BUT, BUT...

The evenlopes ARE WEAK, because of that sound lack "balls"...
Evenlopes very, VERY WEAK!
Only because of that - this synth goes in trash can... Just not usable...
Because of weak evenlopes any sound lacks punch, especially basses...

And miserable abilities of modulation routing...
...And MONO supersaw osc... WTF?
This synth needs improvement, then i will buy it. But not in current condition.

[Teksonik]

Ofcourse a real sh101 is a fully fledged hardware synth, not a plugin.

No, it's an incredibly limited Monophonic synth whose time has come and gone......

[fmr]

Ofcourse a real sh101 is a fully fledged hardware synth, not a plugin.
So i guess my answer is, "whatever I want."

A fully fledged synth? You are joking, right?

[Nighthawk77]

Clarification, its hardware, lets leave it at that.

[SoulState]

[quote="Mutant"][/quote]
Don't post white bears if you have ear problems =)

If you don't know what an "Attack" and fast envelopes means (Real attack, not that ****), you better google it. It's advice for developers from D16 too.
It is great synth, but this thing just kills me...

[Lotuzia]

Ofcourse a real sh101 is a fully fledged hardware synth, not a plugin.

No, it's an incredibly limited Monophonic synth whose time has come and gone......

Yes very limited instruments, as the D model Moog,ARP Odyssey or TB 303.

Also incredibly limited are real trumpets, they cant do 18 notes chords like on your average VSTI, or acoustic Pianos ( you cant transform them into a pad by modifying the attack ), and especially guitars ( you're limited to FIVE fingers, such an heresy nowadays )

MegaFacePalm

Some people here would like to impose their own choices of what is "usable" or not in music, and seem to not really understand what music is really about ... diversity, freedom, creativity ...

My Sh-101 is here to stay ......

LtZ

[ZenPunkHippy]

Don't post white bears if you have ear problems =)

If you don't know what an "Attack" and fast evenlopes means (Real attack, not that ****), you better google it. It's advice for developers from D16 too.
It is great synth, but this thing just kills me...

I have the original hardware. LuSH-101 compares very well.

While I agree the default state of the envelops is not quite as punchy as the original hardware, if you check out the comparison I posted to SoundCloud you'll find it's pretty bloody close.

http://soundcloud.com/zenpunkhippy/d16- ... -vs-sh-101

Also with a bit more attention to programming - as pointed out by Himalaya earlier in the thread, by using the 2nd envelope the punch can be dialled in without too much trouble.

So next time, instead of posting some unfounded rant about the synth - try learning to program 'em first

Peace,
Andy.

[quantize]

Just checked this synth...
Nice sound, BUT...
BUT, BUT...

The evenlopes ARE WEAK, because of that sound lack "balls"...
Evenlopes very, VERY WEAK!
Only because of that - this synth goes in trash can... Just not usable...
Because of weak evenlopes any sound lacks punch, especially basses...

And miserable abilities of modulation routing...
...And MONO supersaw osc... WTF?
This synth needs improvement, then i will buy it. But not in current condition.

Wow, dumbest post I've read on this place in years..

[grymmjack]

Just checked this synth...
Nice sound, BUT...
BUT, BUT...

The evenlopes ARE WEAK, because of that sound lack "balls"...
Evenlopes very, VERY WEAK!
Only because of that - this synth goes in trash can... Just not usable...
Because of weak evenlopes any sound lacks punch, especially basses...

And miserable abilities of modulation routing...
...And MONO supersaw osc... WTF?
This synth needs improvement, then i will buy it. But not in current condition.

what are some examples of "non weak" envelopes?

can you provide a sound clip?

thanks.