Your opinion about Zebra 2

[gentleclockdivider]

Well, if it’s a true good sounding supersaw, no matter how close it can be in my opinion. If the spirit is there, I’ll totally be convinced that Zebra2 has no limits.

Here's my attempt
Good enough foor cheesy trance
Two instances of zebra HZ , bass is zebra HZ with diva moog filter
https://app.box.com/s/8h65qtdeumel2qoosymp4d17jsdbs9p8

[recursive one]

Good enough

Not really

Boxy and muddy.

[DJErmac]

duplicate

[DJErmac]

Well, if it’s a true good sounding supersaw, no matter how close it can be in my opinion. If the spirit is there, I’ll totally be convinced that Zebra2 has no limits.

Here's my attempt
Good enough foor cheesy trance
Two instances of zebra HZ , bass is zebra HZ with diva moog filter
https://app.box.com/s/8h65qtdeumel2qoosymp4d17jsdbs9p8

Epic fail. Sorry.
The base patch is really nicely programmed though, this is a very good supersaw as is, but the sound is so unexpressive, transients are dead, high frequencies are like some content is missing.
But you’re a good programmer for sure.

[gentleclockdivider]

I did put a reverb --.> compressor for the supersaw patch ..which could explain the smearing and boxyness .

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

Happy owner of ACE and Repro here. Just like Diva, good old Zebra was not for me. However, they are both synths in which others find great use, so I would never generalize from my point of view. Apparently, Zebra 2 is a great synth, and that is my opinion even though it ain’t for me. Cool thing about Urs is that he makes something for everybody even if you are not in for all of it or maybe only a few.

[Beachboy]

I also tried to match the sound example and did that with Zebra2 (not HZ). I´m always interested how "modern" sound is defined. Has my example a modern sawtooth sound? If not, what is missing (I´m really curious).

[DJErmac]

I also tried to match the sound example and did that with Zebra2 (not HZ). I´m always interested how "modern" sound is defined. Has my example a modern sawtooth sound? If not, what is missing (I´m really curious).

This one is really, really good. But this lack of high frequencies...

[cryophonik]

Here's my attempt
Good enough foor cheesy trance
Two instances of zebra HZ , bass is zebra HZ with diva moog filter
https://app.box.com/s/8h65qtdeumel2qoosymp4d17jsdbs9p8

I also tried to match the sound example and did that with Zebra2 (not HZ). I´m always interested how "modern" sound is defined. Has my example a modern sawtooth sound? If not, what is missing (I´m really curious).

Both of those sound great to me. I think the real question isn't whether or not Zebra can get cheesy trance supersaws, it's - is it the best tool for the job? I think most people who make trance would agree that you'll get more variety (yes, there are many types of supersaw leads in trance, not to mention plucks and basses that are often made from huge supersaws) and do it easier with other synths. The same goes for Omnisphere, IMO. That's one of my most-used synths, and I primarily use it as a conventional synth (i.e., without the samples) when I'm rolling my own sounds. While I can get huge supersaws out of it, I usually feel like it takes more time and effort and still doesn't have that huge supersaw sweet spot like Hive, Sylenth1, Dune, Spire, etc. have. It's great to have choices.

[chk071]

You guys are posting examples, which is good. But, I wished there were examples which also make use of the filter. There are not many musical cases where only a unfiltered supersaw makes sense. While there are loads of pluck sounds, filtered pad sounds, stuff like that are used in tracks. Also, do sounds with 2 oscillators, slightly detuned to each other, not just one. If you haven't done yet (it sounds like only one oscillator using unison was used, maybe I'm wrong).

Frankly, I don't really liked the sound examples so far though. Too much detune, and, as recursive one wrote, they sound somewhat boxy, and lack brilliance. But then... you also have to EQ the f*** out of Sylenth1 to get a brilliant top end as well. It has the most pleasant sound when you detune and use stereo spread though. Just A/B it against Zebra, or any other synth. It really excels at that. AND, it excels at those plucks with short filter decay times. I think tehlord already posted it here once: The sound of the closed, and envelope'd filter just sounds "right". Like on an analog synth.

[chk071]

Both of those sound great to me. I think the real question isn't whether or not Zebra can get cheesy trance supersaws, it's - is it the best tool for the job?

That is the thing the people who don't use such sounds in their music at all want to prove here. Not sure why, but, hey, it's not like we have anything better to do.

Sorry, only meant that half way serious.

[cryophonik]

You guys are posting examples, which is good. But, I wished there were examples which also make use of the filter.

I agree, but honestly, I've made similar sounds with Zebra using its filter and it sounded great (even better with Hz IMO). To clarify my response, neither of their patches are what I would want to hear in a song as is, just that they were able to create the basis for big detuned sound. They would still need to be refined, filter/modulation added, FX, etc., but they sound good for what they are (i.e., raw supersaw sounds) and just a testament that Zebra can do it.

[gentleclockdivider]

For those that don't know yet , osc in crisp mode gives no high freq roll off , example shows geomorph saw

[Beachboy]

Besides "crisp" there´s also an OSC FX called "brilliance" which I used.

[gentleclockdivider]

You guys are posting examples, which is good. But, I wished there were examples which also make use of the filter. There are not many musical cases where only a unfiltered supersaw makes sense. While there are loads of pluck sounds, filtered pad sounds, stuff like that are used in tracks. Also, do sounds with 2 oscillators, slightly detuned to each other, not just one. If you haven't done yet (it sounds like only one oscillator using unison was used, maybe I'm wrong).

Frankly, I don't really liked the sound examples so far though. Too much detune, and, as recursive one wrote, they sound somewhat boxy, and lack brilliance. But then... you also have to EQ the f*** out of Sylenth1 to get a brilliant top end as well. It has the most pleasant sound when you detune and use stereo spread though. Just A/B it against Zebra, or any other synth. It really excels at that. AND, it excels at those plucks with short filter decay times. I think tehlord already posted it here once: The sound of the closed, and envelope'd filter just sounds "right". Like on an analog synth.

I used four oscillators , three of which are in quad mode and one in eleventh mode ( I think )
One is tuned one octave above ...all the rest .
I spend just 3 minutes with it befor I got bored , someone will most def. do better