Thanks for the tip! That's a little more tempting at that price, although I'm still not totally convinced.Chapelle wrote:No idea about 2nd hand sales, but you can get 30% off the upgrade at The Loop Loft with discount code LPGM30 (I don't know how long that code is valid).krixa wrote:Does anyone know if the bitwig v1 --> v2 upgrade can be sold/transferred? In other words, can I hope for a second hand upgrade to be available in the Marketplace anytime soon?
bitwig 2 is here
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
- KVRAF
- 37383 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thankyou - bought - hope it's validdeastman wrote:Thanks for the tip! That's a little more tempting at that price, although I'm still not totally convinced.Chapelle wrote:No idea about 2nd hand sales, but you can get 30% off the upgrade at The Loop Loft with discount code LPGM30 (I don't know how long that code is valid).krixa wrote:Does anyone know if the bitwig v1 --> v2 upgrade can be sold/transferred? In other words, can I hope for a second hand upgrade to be available in the Marketplace anytime soon?
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- KVRist
- 341 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
Thanks for the tip Chapelle!
Don't know if I'm gonna get it right now even with this discount. You badge holders, how much discount did you get in the bitwig shop? Just curious..
To be honest I don't think the upgrades will be able to be transferred, but it would be nice if they could
Don't know if I'm gonna get it right now even with this discount. You badge holders, how much discount did you get in the bitwig shop? Just curious..
To be honest I don't think the upgrades will be able to be transferred, but it would be nice if they could
Bitwig
- KVRAF
- 37383 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes, but for now I'm happy bunnyezelkow1 wrote:+1 on that code. Upgrade worked for me. This is the price it should have been to begin with
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- KVRian
- 600 posts since 1 Jul, 2009
Thanks Chapelle for the tipChapelle wrote: No idea about 2nd hand sales, but you can get 30% off the upgrade at The Loop Loft with discount code LPGM30 (I don't know how long that code is valid).
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6787 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
There something about the fm synth I can't really put my finger on , it sure is phase modulation , operator 1 feedbacking itself gives us a saw .
But when modulating by operator 2 ( set to ratio 1 ) , it sounds totally different then any other phase mod.synth .
They have increased the modulation depth amount , but it sounds nowhere near phase modulation/FM .
The carrier fundamental is always bleeding trough , espeacially noticable when looking at the osciloscope;
Modulate operator 1 by 2 set to a low freq ( 3 hz) ..set mod depth to max , and listen ..verry strange ;
Screenshot shows carrier and modulator bot set to sme ratio , mod mount to max .
This not how a phase modulated signal looks like ratio 1:1

But when modulating by operator 2 ( set to ratio 1 ) , it sounds totally different then any other phase mod.synth .
They have increased the modulation depth amount , but it sounds nowhere near phase modulation/FM .
The carrier fundamental is always bleeding trough , espeacially noticable when looking at the osciloscope;
Modulate operator 1 by 2 set to a low freq ( 3 hz) ..set mod depth to max , and listen ..verry strange ;
Screenshot shows carrier and modulator bot set to sme ratio , mod mount to max .
This not how a phase modulated signal looks like ratio 1:1

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Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6787 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
Read sowehwere they used paraboles , but then again ...the outcome is really strange .
COuld one of the developers shed some light on this issue
COuld one of the developers shed some light on this issue
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- KVRAF
- 26932 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I doubt the developers are gonna see your question in this general forum.gentleclockdivider wrote:Read sowehwere they used paraboles , but then again ...the outcome is really strange .
COuld one of the developers shed some light on this issue
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- KVRian
- 591 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City
Agree as well. Pity Bitwig developers wasted precious time and resources on that support. Makes you wonder what their priority is - workflow or gimmicks. The modulation is cool but does that need to be such a huge focus? I want to make music efficiently, not tinker in a science lab for days. Some of their v1 features really caught my eye - layered editing, session view on the arrange page, etc, - their focus on workflow was great much like Presonus with Studio One, but in Bitwig v2 they seem to have lost their way (and yes I tried the demo).fmr wrote:Totally agree with you. That's why I don't understand people complaing about GUIs not optimized for touch, and want the mobile apps GUIs ported to desktop and laptop computers. I always found those GUIs horrible, and a complete waste of space.pdxindy wrote: Touch works well for consumer gadgets but the mouse is significantly faster for serious work.
I'm glad Apple does not have a touch based Mac. I don't want all my application GUI's being optimized for touch cause that will make using the mouse slower. (touch is more click heavy) It will also waste space on the need for bigger buttons and especially on the laptop space is precious.
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- Banned
- 5357 posts since 7 May, 2015
Chapelle wrote:No idea about 2nd hand sales, but you can get 30% off the upgrade at The Loop Loft with discount code LPGM30 (I don't know how long that code is valid).krixa wrote:Does anyone know if the bitwig v1 --> v2 upgrade can be sold/transferred? In other words, can I hope for a second hand upgrade to be available in the Marketplace anytime soon?

Christ, now I gotta learn how to use the damn thing
- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
It's really nice to see several happy customers! I'm waiting for a couple features and if they add them I'll take another look.
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- Banned
- 5357 posts since 7 May, 2015
And that's tough. I think there should be more "workflow" features. But so it's nice. I appreciate the fades. Now, if I could figure out why I can't get "bounced" clips to work post fx 
