Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Some hero made a PDF of the on-line 12 manual!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... anual_pdf/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... anual_pdf/
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qtheerearranger qtheerearranger https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=325452
- KVRian
- 926 posts since 26 Mar, 2014 from Denver, Co
Needs to be said as posted on this Reddit the reason Ableton hasn’t made a pdf version of it themselves yet is because it’s still a work in progress. Sections missing and sections being updated.SLiC wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:46 pm Some hero made a PDF of the on-line 12 manual!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... anual_pdf/
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2892 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
LIVE 12 midi handling is wow
I've been a user since v.6 & this new version is a mind-bending step forward. It's gonna take some time to evolve my primitive use of midi to this next level.
Peace
I've been a user since v.6 & this new version is a mind-bending step forward. It's gonna take some time to evolve my primitive use of midi to this next level.
Peace
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- KVRian
- 1133 posts since 31 May, 2007
I agree , I’m a stubborn keyboard player who likes his ego to inflate by everything being played in to some extent but the new midi tools absolutely are brilliant at sparking some ideas for melodyMister Natural wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:52 pm LIVE 12 midi handling is wow
I've been a user since v.6 & this new version is a mind-bending step forward. It's gonna take some time to evolve my primitive use of midi to this next level.
Peace
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- KVRAF
- 1551 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
Yes, wouldn't ask Ableton much more in the MIDI handling department now. It's pretty much done to me. Now I would like if they improved all things audio. I'd be great if they implemented native pitch correction tools, ARA2 and such.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8018 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Mostly there's some MIDI handling in terms of routing between tracks that could use improvement, but that will probably get fixed when MIDI 2.0 becomes standard.Yorrrrrr wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:01 pm Yes, wouldn't ask to Ableton much more in the MIDI handling department now. It's pretty much done to me.
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Actual MIDI plugin support would be nice. Not needing to have 2 tracks (one for e.g. Scaler and another one with the actual plugin) for this would be cool. Or the ability to send MIDI notes to effect plugins.
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Karbon L. Forms Karbon L. Forms https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29033
- KVRian
- 1412 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland
I wrap my MIDI VST's in M4L Midi Effect. Very low effort. e.g. for Riffer...sQeetz wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:58 pm Actual MIDI plugin support would be nice. Not needing to have 2 tracks (one for e.g. Scaler and another one with the actual plugin) for this would be cool. Or the ability to send MIDI notes to effect plugins.
(open) -> [RifferVST] -> [midiout]
Add the (open) message to presentation.
job done.
(Scaler also requires [midiin]->[midiparse]->[Scaler2VST])
I have Jamstix, Scaler2, Maschine, Cthulhu, etc all wrapped. The plug window is a bit weird and it's marginally less efficient but I HATE the 2 track thing.
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- KVRian
- 542 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
I’m not sure if you just want to see a better workflow or general support for this — but it’s possible, either with a grouped External Instrument or with a second track sending MIDI to the plugin.
- KVRAF
- 1551 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
12.0.5b1 now available for those wanting to beta test. Huge list of fixes, as well as new features and improvements.
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- KVRian
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-12-beta/Yorrrrrr wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:52 pm 12.0.5b1 now available for those wanting to beta test. Huge list of fixes, as well as new features and improvements.
I make electronic music - DAW of choice : Live 12 
- KVRAF
- 1551 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
Some major annoyances from the initial release were fixed! Such as:
- Detail view keyboard shortcut restored (Command+Option+L)
- Keyboard shortcuts for arrangement view tracks sections (Command+Option+I and R when in focus)
- Sort plugins by vendor in browser.
- And more...
- Detail view keyboard shortcut restored (Command+Option+L)
- Keyboard shortcuts for arrangement view tracks sections (Command+Option+I and R when in focus)
- Sort plugins by vendor in browser.
- And more...
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- KVRAF
- 12093 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Wow, great first fix release, they have been working hard! Ableton are on it, a lot of the things they have done are not bug fixes, they are listening to users feedback- revolutionary! 
Last edited by SLiC on Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!