Old Free VSTi Gems From The Past

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Yep indeed my friend that is it in a nutshell

Odd area at times though bro bigtime - For another example some DJ's tracks which are remixes are fine/approved since in those circles remixing one anothers work is encouraged and then released officially if it goes down well in clubs for example

In our circles though covering a track by some band/artist whom either own the rights to it or their label do and releasing it on an album is not-allowed unless you pay for the privaledge/rights to do so/get it ok'd. Such as say a Beatles cover - this matters alot more on record and live it is usally fine to cover it or covers bands would be fresh out of work

That hip-hop genre our good friend Ervin dislikes with a passion - alot of the records released in that genre in the late 80's early to mid 90's were ripping breaks and hooks left, right and center from other records (apache by the shadows being the most lifted beat/break IIRC). Then they put a big crackdown on it and the samples swipped had to be ok'd and sort by label from other label which in some cases was about 70% of the hip-hop record (must of been a frickin nightmare to be the people in charge of clearing the rights to the used samples/breaks and paying royalities/license fees to all it concerns!!!). It tends to not be that way anymore as its such a headache to clear all the material and they use all/mostly original source sounds but i have noticed the more original it has become (without ripping old drum breaks/hooks/themes from classic records...etc.) the more it sounds unoriginal and samey ironically...maybe in that genre's case the 'Art of sampling' to create something semi-familiar but at the same time 'New/Fresh' was what made it/does apply although i have never been a fan of 99.9% of it all so couldn't give a rats ass

Strange the way it all works really and i am just touching upon the tip of an iceberg here

Peace

Dean

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Sorry for veering OT Bob, just explaining the reasoning why the much recently talked about Necromare has had to pull all the works created/gave away man. Yes back to the old gems now. Makes the Necromare stuff totally vapour dodge vare...I never grabbed any of it.

Question is do the folk whom have it delete it or not out of priciple? Or keep due to not knowing until after the fact?

Not my call whatsoever folk...

[eidenk]

The Oud samples come from a library of old instruments for Akai (I own the original samples). Also the choirs are from a Roland CD. I think Necromare didn't tried to do something bad, he has been correct and deleted the plugins. I have no doubt he found that samples in some "free" collections, but some of that material is not free at all. It's not a matter of "lies".

OK so then, I have just found the oud and mixed choir page in the google cache and origin of the samples isn't credited like for the other ones so I well want to believe what you are saying about that. Not mentioning those ones and attributing the whole pull down only to the free Creative Commons samples complains is a bit of a lie I think from necromare's part. And I would think that if he didn't try to do something bad with regards to the free samples under CC license he certainly must have known that using commercial samples was bad/forbidden/illegal.

I must say I was surprised to find out that the CC license was implicitly forbidding making a rompler or a soundfont out of free samples which I think is rather ridiculous.

And yeah whatever is produced with an analogue or digital synth can be used for making romplers, Titan being a massive commercial example of it I think. Not sure if samples of factory presets are allowed though.

[eidenk]

Start a new thread will ya ?

We've had other massive disruptions in the past, and totally unrelated to even music at that, ask nekro about it

So get over it, no such a big deal is it since it has been rather interesting, no?

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Start a new thread will ya ?

We've had other massive disruptions in the past, and totally unrelated to even music at that, ask nekro about it

Oh the erm 'good old days' of my daily disruptions (borderline insane and uber-black humour pieces) I am these days much more well behaved i hope...I changed my ways bigtime and rarely even snap on at the most infuriating posts on infuriating threads. I would never do so in this thread as it is so good and always friendly and i have respect for everyone whom posts on this one/consider you all friends

Bob i am a different man, more Dean and less Nekro these days

[mztk]

Makes the Necromare stuff totally vapour dodge vare...I never grabbed any of it.

Question is do the folk whom have it delete it or not out of priciple? Or keep due to not knowing until after the fact?

Not my call whatsoever folk...

getting lazier by the day...

i think i grabbed them all ( how many was it? 22?) and won't delete them.
i didn't make them... you gonna delete the flintlock juno? nah.

suppose the deal is, you can't take someone else's work and claim it as your
own, period. but he put it a new format, ready to use. (it's a shame he
didn't source samples with a bit more care. )
didn't it used to be that a sample could be 6seconds long? or was that a myth?

oops, so that means bcs i didn't arks the goldbaby if i could use the cassette808
etc samples, i gotta kill the 'zoxdrum'? wdf.ok, i forgot, but credited clearly
with a special box for it.

[pinkjimiphoton]

well, i got all the nekromare stuff i think,..visited it daily.
i'll keep it in my archives, whether i'll ever use it or not, who knows?
guess if i do, i'll have to molest it some to make it mine, lol.
thanks all for the info and education.

bob...find anything good lately?
i can't seem to find a goddamn thing i haven't already found...so i'm beginning to think we've got it all, at least all that's out there. which is good, cuz alot of the repositorys like simtel etc no longer maintain the older win 3 and 95 archives...all that shit is gone with the wind.

except for a few of us out here that are addicted to the stuff..
lol

[eidenk]

i think i grabbed them all ( how many was it? 22?)

Not even half of them! By searching the google cache a bit I could quickly piece together this (probably quite complete) list of 54 necromare vsts (I just have the 14 oldest ones including Fartburpatron 3000 ).

Acoustic Guitar
Angelic Harp
Bang
Basement Piano
Bent Furbie
Bongoes
Bowed Guitar
Broken Toy
Celesta
Celtic Harp
Clanger
Clean Electric Guitar
Dante's Power Chords
Deep Space Explorer
Dimensions
Drums
Electric Bass
Fartburpatron 3000
Finger Pop
Futures
Gamelan Music
Jazz Trumpet
Kalimba
Kazoo
Koto
Mandolin
Mixed Choirs
Mythical Instrument Lucivier
New Dimension
Nylon Guitar Vst
Old Candle Jar
Old Music Box
Orchestral Percussion
Oud
PIano Harp
Polyslop
PONG!
Simple Acoustic Guitar
Sinsonic Drums
Soft Mallet Xylophone
Southern Banjo
Speak and Teach
The Ahyila Machine
THE Audience
The Office
The Panning PIano
Toys
Turntable
VL-1 Drum
Waterphones
Wave-Stone
Whalesong
Zeboo Drum Kit
Zombie Electric Guitar



Most of them gone and not to be re-upped I guess since they are a bit dodgy.

[bob bobwood]

Gentlemen and Alison, sorry about earlier, just had to shout something.

also; jessie music box.zip
PanLute.zip
Phoneme.zip
Rock Hapsichord_2.zip
Sarod.zip
War Machine.zip

eidenk, what is the precise name .dll or .zip for Futures ? Must have missed that in my battle to download the (new) Dimension.

Any stuff that I have found that isn't already in this thread is either
demo software, donation or payware. It will all go in the big list.

In the meantime could we collate a list of all the vsti and vstfx that we know about, but can't find. Armed with a list of these things we can go a hunting.

Don't list them on here though ! PM me a list of names (in an orderly fashion like eidenks). I'll collate it and regurgitate it for y'all.

[eidenk]

Oops there isn't a Futures vst I am afraid. I had just compiled that list from the blog archive list on the right of the page in the google cache and Vst Futures looked like it was a vst but it is not, it is in fact only a list of announced pluggies:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... ient=opera

As for a list of impossible to find oldies, I used to maintain one in this thread so perhaps you can find the last instance of it and start from there (it's been a while ago though). I'll have a look if I can find it on my disks anyway and if I can I'll PM it to you.

[bob bobwood]

I did see the list and had it on the crashed hard drive. Anyway that list lead to a frenzy and was whittled down considerably.

If I recall rightly it started with Borg9. When I finally caught up with it
[midi-musiker/pjp666 and the famous UUUUURGH! comment], I emailed the dev, he said it was the first time anyone had ever got in touch with him 'bout it.

[mztk]

fartburpatron 3000 ...

yeah well b*ll*x i want all of them and they are integrated
afaic. and fair play to Mr Burpatron for spending the time
making them, i say. they are very nicely grafficked and presented,
and whatever the legal, a nice way of presenting those sounds,
even the copyrightholder willnot deny... i love soundfonts: they
may be 'out of date' or whatever, but have a certain something
to them; when you put a bunch of inert sounds together so that
they become an instrument, etc etc. it the same with these.
ave, necromare!

btw RIP Mick Karn.

[bob bobwood]

Mick Karn, pity, he'd have liked Dubtron.

[mztk]

ugh sorry, still have to find u nin-osc. sure i have it, ai't.

if, bob, everything was entered into a 'excel spreadsheet, it'd be
(right boring) easier to sort through, for all kinds of categorisations.
some way to go on that, requires some meditation, re: what.
(i have, hehe, excellent pcu magazine browser file modded, whereby menus
are listed under tabs, and click triggers run of file linked. can be modded
at will, eg: graphics,etc. and all relates to excel file.

[eidenk]

I did see the list and had it on the crashed hard drive. Anyway that list lead to a frenzy and was whittled down considerably.

If I recall rightly it started with Borg9. When I finally caught up with it
[midi-musiker/pjp666 and the famous UUUUURGH! comment], I emailed the dev, he said it was the first time anyone had ever got in touch with him 'bout it.

No that was the list of all pluggies I had at that point in time I think, but there is a much shorter one of vsts we could not find that I maintained for some time, updating it regularly with new unfulfilled request and deleting from it whatever ended up showing up.

Btw, who is the Borg9 dev? Asking since I could never find out and this pluggie is in my "unknown author" folder since pinkjimiphoton (I think) uploaded it some day.