Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

[pdxindy]

I just listened to a number of audio demos on you tube... Legend is impressive. I certainly like it better than Monark. Legend is more musical but it also got some juice! I didn't hear a single sound among the many dozen I listened to that had something weak or suspect about it. Legend definitely sets the new standard for a MiniMoog emulation.

hmm really? Diva, Monark, the Legend... they are all very impressive. Also I will say that I havn't used this latest MiniMoog emulation at home, but I think we are getting close to the point where the differences between these emulations are almost as great as the difference between actual hardware MiniMoogs.

but IMO The difference between listening to to raw output/lossless recordings of any of these synths and listening to demos on you-tube is probably quite large!

For me, its not a matter of which is best.
Diva, Monark, and Legend all have something unique to offer sonically.
Each has something of value to bring to the table.

I don't even include Diva with those other two. Legend and Monark are first and foremost 1:1 emulations of the Minimoog. Diva is a far more diverse synth and not intended to be a 1:1 emulation but rather capture the analog tone of a number of classic synth Oscs and Filters without being a 1:1 emulation of any of them.

RePro-1 is the first u-he synth that is an actual full on emulation.

[Ingonator]

Yesterday and today i have checked the new U-He RePro-1 public beta and also did some comparisons with The Legend.

Both synths sound great on their own but the basic sound of both the filters and the oscillators are too much different to do a fair comparison.

Anyway in terms of "raw power" i somehow think that The Legend is slightly ahead, especially if you add the Drive (main GUI) and/or the saturation (back panel).
Repro-1 like the real Pro One has an enhanced frequency range to get brighter sounds. With The Legend you could get close to that with using the 12dB filter mode (which i really like BTW) and/or using the trimpots at the back panel.
Whie i had owned/used a real Minimoog Model D and almsot every emulation (including a DSP based Minimax ASB desktop) i never owned or used a real Pro One so i have no peronal relation to that one. Anyway i had owned a Dave Smith Evolver desktop and had sold it not too long after having bought it.

So it's up to if you like the Minimoog or the Pro One sound more or both. As both the current price of The Legend and the introduction price for Repro-1 are reasonable you could buy both.

[AnX]

Yesterday and today i have checked the new U-He RePro-1 public beta and also did some comparisons with The Legend.
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Two COMPLETELY differrent synths. Total waste of time doing ANY comparison.

Stuff like that is basically stirring the pot.

[Ingonator]

Yesterday and today i have checked the new U-He RePro-1 public beta and also did some comparisons with The Legend.
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Two COMPLETELY differrent synths. Total waste of time doing ANY comparison.

Stuff like that is basically stirring the pot.

Did you actually read the rest of my post like this one:

Both synths sound great on their own but the basic sound of both the filters and the oscillators are too much different to do a fair comparison.

or this:

Anyway in terms of "raw power" i somehow think that The Legend is slightly ahead, especially if you add the Drive (main GUI) and/or the saturation (back panel).

So it's up to if you like the Minimoog or the Pro One sound more or both.

I am 100% sure i will not be the only one that will do such comparisons (and Repro-1 was already mentionend in the post above mine) even if at the end in this case it is quite pointless as both synths are different. FWIW The Legend was also mentioned in the official Repro-1 thread...
I would also not really say that one of them is actually "better" due to the differences so it's up to which basic sound and feature set you prefer.

[Ingonator]

FWIW i did more than one attempt to bring the focus of the discussion to the new v1.07 update of The Legend (with the FX plugin and Midi Learn) including a few hints and screenshots but people here seemed to prefer discussing other stuff or stuff that was alraedy discussed several times before.

[AnX]

Yes, i read the rest of your pointless post. You mainly talk about other synths, and stuff youve owned...again...

[Ingonator]

nvm

[chk071]

Yesterday and today i have checked the new U-He RePro-1 public beta and also did some comparisons with The Legend.
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Two COMPLETELY differrent synths. Total waste of time doing ANY comparison.

The fact that it is pointless FOR YOU doesn't mean it has to be pointless, or a waste of time for others. I consider many things people do a waste of time, but then, that's just me. Why care anyway? It's neither your time, nor your work.

[fmr]

Yesterday and today i have checked the new U-He RePro-1 public beta and also did some comparisons with The Legend.
.

Two COMPLETELY differrent synths. Total waste of time doing ANY comparison.

The fact that it is pointless FOR YOU doesn't mean it has to be pointless, or a waste of time for others. I consider many things people do a waste of time, but then, that's just me. Why care anyway? It's neither your time, nor your work.

Actually, I don't think it's pointless. In those times, the Pro-One, the Odissey and the Mini were competing with each other, which was understandlable - all were monosynths, all were focused in leads and bass sounds, and were used likewise. The same way, comparing the RePro-1 with an emulation of Prohpet-5, like the Arturia Prophet-V is also justified, since the poriginals had so much in common (but also some different things, as was pointed in the RePro thread).

Back in the 70s, comparisons between Mini, Odissey and Pro-One were a constant. Only now, where the majority of people don't even know any of the origjnals, do they think that these comparisons because "they are totally different instruments" - well, not so much, IMO. Actually they have a much closer architecture than, say, Spire and Sylenth, which I see being compared constantly.

[xx JPRacer xx]

I meant the links for their Facebook and Twitter pages. Several developers are posting news first on Facebook and/or Twitter instead of their websites.

Mmm, can't wait until the world ends.

[Yorrrrrr]

Now that I have both Legend and RePro-1, I have to say that *if* I had to choose, I would definitely go with Legend, for sure. If they're both accurate emulations, maybe if I lived in the era of the hardware I guess I would definitely choose the Minimoog Model D over the Pro One. The sound of Legend/Minimoog is magic to me!.......BUT, I DON'T have to choose one over the other. They can coexist happily, so...it's great to have both emulations in the end. They sound and behave quite different.

[fmr]

Now that I have both Legend and RePro-1, I have to say that *if* I had to choose, I would definitely go with Legend, for sure. If they're both accurate emulations, maybe if I lived in the era of the hardware I guess I would definitely choose the Minimoog Model D over the Pro One. The sound of Legend/Minimoog is magic to me!.......BUT, I DON'T have to choose one over the other. They can coexist happily, so...it's great to have both emulations in the end. They sound and behave quite different.

Well, that's what the majority did, anyway The Mini sold around 13000 while the Pro-One sold "only" around 9000, according to what Urs posted in the RePro thread (I was surprised because I had no idea there were so many produced).

Fortunately, now, not only can we have have both for peanuts, we can also use several units of each without having to buy each one of them

[sacer]

I like Ingos comparison. I also compared the legend with monark, minimonsta, diva and miniV. In this comparison i prefer the sound of the legend. I also compared prophetV5 with Repro and the arturia sound comes very close to the repro-1.
The miniV isn't comparable to the legend, the legend sounds to me so much bether.

[Ingonator]

If you got both Repro-1 (which finally i could not resist to buy yesterday...) and The Legend you could use the new FX version of The Legend to combine both synths into a very intersting an nice result. If you route a MIDI track to the FX plugin besides the filter and Drive you could also use the envelopes and the oscillators of The Legend. Overall this can result in a really fat soudning 5 Osc synth.

If you do not use the filter in Repro-1 at full Cutoff but at lower values you could also use a balance of both filters so both will have an effect on the sound.

Here is an audio demo using a modified Repro-1 patch i re-programmed from a Prophet 5 Sync factory preset in Arturia Prophet V3 and the Fx version of The Legend using the 24dB filter, all 3 Oscs (Saws), Drive, Feedback and the enveloepes:

Repro-1 + The Legend FX - Audio Demo 01

No built-in or external FXs were used with this demo.

In The Legend FX i also used the pink noise to modulate the filter which does not seem to be possible in Repro-1 in a comparable way (actually there does not seem to be a noise or S&H mod source at all there).


Here is a screenshot with the Live 9 setup and settings in The Legend FX (+ a left part of the Repro-1 GUI):

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... ro-1_1.png

[AnX]

So is this rhread about legend or repro1 ? Its so confusing....