KVR Audio

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:33 am

recursive one wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
6) a master FX section (!!!)
Any layer can be such a section, just make sends from the other layers to it at 100% and disable their individual routings to the master.

Same with the global filter.

No. Yes you can do that, but that is not what i am after. I have already multiple presets with all 8 layers occupied. The sends are working, sure, but you can't choose where these inserts are getting received (at which place in the next layer's fx position). A master fx chain is quite common in all-round synths.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:41 am

recursive one wrote:After having spent two days trying to download the Avenger 4.5 gb content merely to run the demo I started to appreciate the Parawave's decision to prepare a smaller demo installer even more

thats why such a big factory library should be optional but not so small like rapid's default... either u buy it or not. it's no gaming demo where it makes sense to play 2 levels.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:44 am

exmatproton wrote:
recursive one wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
6) a master FX section (!!!)
Any layer can be such a section, just make sends from the other layers to it at 100% and disable their individual routings to the master.

Same with the global filter.
No. Yes you can do that, but that is not what i am after. I have already multiple presets with all 8 layers occupied. The sends are working, sure, but you can't choose where these inserts are getting received (at which place in the next layer's fx position). A master fx chain is quite common in all-round synths.

You can place "send" at any position in fx chain of any given layer and the input from this send into the target layer will be before the filter. Thus it will be followed by the inserts and the effects, so you will be able to use this target layer exactly as the master filter and FX section, and you will even be able to send the signal from it to further layers as the aux busses, e.g. if you want to have a delay or reverb as the send effects. Yes, you will be wasting one of 8 layers for this, but I'm not sure if anyone will ever need all 8 of them for a patch used in an actual mix (not "one note makes a song" kind of patch).

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:55 am

recursive one wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
recursive one wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
6) a master FX section (!!!)
Any layer can be such a section, just make sends from the other layers to it at 100% and disable their individual routings to the master.

Same with the global filter.
No. Yes you can do that, but that is not what i am after. I have already multiple presets with all 8 layers occupied. The sends are working, sure, but you can't choose where these inserts are getting received (at which place in the next layer's fx position). A master fx chain is quite common in all-round synths.
You can place "send" at any position in fx chain of any given layer and the input from this send into the target layer will be before the filter. Thus it will be followed by the inserts and the effects, so you will be able to use this target layer exactly as the master filter and FX section, and you will even be able to send the signal from it to further layers as the aux busses, e.g. if you want to have a delay or reverb as the send effects. Yes, you will be wasting one of 8 layers for this, but I'm not sure if anyone will ever need all 8 of them for a patch used in an actual mix (not "one note makes a song" kind of patch).

I am not talking about the send, but about the receive. If i could use a "receive from layer 'n'", part of the problem i am facing would be solved. Or just build a master section. Most other synths have a master section.

About using up all 8 layers; it is what the synth is made for. So i really don't get your point. Consider a patch with multiple different envelopes and LFO's for nice atmospheric textures. Or some polyrythmic arp over 8 layers. Or.....i could go on. It is not about "one note makes a song" at all. It is about creating diverse, deep, evolving and moving patches. And with this in mind, i ran upon this "minor issue".

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:05 pm

exmatproton wrote: 3) I would like to see multiple color schemes. During the day, the bright UI with orange is fine, but in the evening i'd rather switch to a dark (FF151515) scheme with blue highlights (for instance)

It would be nice to just have different colors to swap out. A darker scheme would be cool!

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:13 pm

@ exmatproton
So how you want it to be adressed? A dedicated mater section (essentially a restricted 9th layer without oscillators)? Or the ability for any layer to receive the sends at an arbitrary point in the signal chain (like bewteen the filter and the insert, or into the arbitrary slot in the FX chain)?

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:20 pm

recursive one wrote:@ exmatproton
So how you want it to be adressed? A dedicated mater section (essentially a restricted 9th layer without oscillators)? Or the ability for any layer to receive the sends at an arbitrary point in the signal chain (like bewteen the filter and the insert, or into the arbitrary slot in the FX chain)?

Both would be awesome. 100% flexibilty. But as a "quick fix" a 9th fx-dedicated layer (not as a send-receive, but where the signal always is going thru) would be great.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:27 pm

Examigan wrote:
exmatproton wrote: 3) I would like to see multiple color schemes. During the day, the bright UI with orange is fine, but in the evening i'd rather switch to a dark (FF151515) scheme with blue highlights (for instance)
It would be nice to just have different colors to swap out. A darker scheme would be cool!

Custom colors for layers.. (i would like that)

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:39 pm

parawave wrote:Almost feel a little bored without crash reports or complains
So are you all having fun with Rapid? If you want to show stuff go on. I'm always interested in what people create with our synth.

How about a small playlist then

. I have hundreds others but I'll create another thread for that. I think I'll go ahead and release all 800 presets I've made in one or two soundsets then call it a day, for less than one expansion pack. If it does well I can see myself making patches for rapid for years since I absolutely LOVE it

https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... le-patches

More to come but I'll try to be more selective and will leave all the marketing out of it, just links

sacer · Post by **sacer** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:31 pm

the demo is very limited and keeps me away from buying. How are the other 600 presets compared to the small amount of presets in the demo. Are all the other presets comparable, or gets someone the impression, that these less presets are like a best of and the most presets of the full version sounds more normal / standard sound.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:35 pm

sacer wrote:the demo is very limited and keeps me away from buying. How are the other 600 presets compared to the small amount of presets in the demo. Are all the other presets comparable, or gets someone the impression, that these less presets are like a best of and the most presets of the full version sounds more normal / standard sound.

Sorry, can't answer this. I hardly touched any preset. Playing with the synth itself was enough for me to buy it

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:38 pm

sacer wrote:the demo is very limited and keeps me away from buying. How are the other 600 presets compared to the small amount of presets in the demo. Are all the other presets comparable, or gets someone the impression, that these less presets are like a best of and the most presets of the full version sounds more normal / standard sound.

Presets are great. Synth is great. My problem, as I said from the beginning, was the price. If you can get it at this really great sale price, get it. At that price, it's more than worth it.

Mirko R. · Post by **Mirko R.** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:13 pm

One Instance of RAPID. Pressing only one key and playing with the Macros.

Buckster · Post by **Buckster** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:46 pm

Mirko R - fantastic - you are very talented

sounds great

can I ask what controller you are using there please

and whats producing the drum line please ?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:56 pm

very nice, i would be interested in brooding cinematic sequences

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