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pakana wrote:
grymmjack wrote:
pakana wrote:Xara has the same, and Corel too. But you don't need to right-click, just press ctrl+shift+a.
Xara's isn't the same in terms of saving your presets. They can do similar things, but not as comprehensively as PS. I've tried to duplicate the workflow in Xara Xtreme and it's possible to a point. The copy/paste attribute helps, but AFAIK there is no "save all these different modifications/effects as a "group" and put them somewhere I can get them and drag them to other things/assign them en masse." in Xara X not the same as Photoshop which lets you do that with flair.

Dunno about Corel, I avoid their products as much as possible as I prefer the Adobe way of working over Corels.
You're right, it requires saving them as .xar. Having them in a menu in every document would surely be more comfortable. Although I must say that doing basic things like shadows, bevels etc. is a lot faster as in image editing programs and presets for them is not my nr.1 feature request for Xara.

I don't like the Adobe way of working, and investing horrible sums of money to their programs would not make output any better, but I have the feeling that CS is something inevitable... being Adobe-compatible would just make life easier.

Do you use Illustrator btw?
Totally agree with you man. Xara rocks the house for speed and efficiency. Yeah I use illustrator too (but not nearly to it's fullest potential) -- I'm buying Xara X for vector when I get my tax return :) I've tried the inkscape route and it's just not there for me yet. It's awesomely incredible, gimp + inkscape = powerhouse, and rival to the adobe/corel offerings in these categories which is great, but..

Yeah I use CS one, it's partly because I learned on photoshop 4 long long ago, and from there, the adobe dependency grew. I'm fully aware of my addiction/problem to the "Adobe way".

You should be able to find a copy of CS v1.0 (CS2 is just a bunch of crap that slows things down and nothing jawdropping enough to me to upgrade) for a very reasonable price online if you are interested I get offers almost every day from OEM software houses selling them. Adobe doesn't even sell CS1 anymore that I can see, so you can't buy it direct :(

If I didn't do such repetitive stuff with graphics, I would totally use Xara for evertyhing, but the web workflow and optimization/slice with Save as powered by ImageReady directly in PS makes my life/production a dream. And because clients constantly change their minds about things, I need to have total non-destructive control over every piece of a design, so layer comps, blending effects, and intrinsic vector layers (shapes) with the editable type engine make it a no brainer decision.

Xara has great features that rival and exceed adobe in several respects, and for vector it cannot be beaten IMO. It's the most elegant and useful vector app I've used, but there are certain things that it cannot do that photoshop can. It's back to the whole uber-host/uber-program debate. Trying to find a single app to suit ALL your needs for every possible scenario is literally impossible, and it's wisest to just take the hit and buy what you need to stay competitive/agile in your industry of choice. KVR has taught me a great deal about this.

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pakana wrote:Xara has the same, and Corel too. But you don't need to right-click, just press ctrl+shift+a.

Anyway, I've removed all the old versions of my skin due to n00b error with incorrect screen gamma settings. So, with special thanks to BONES, here's my last version of ModernRetro for a while.

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D/L most recent version here

sunny days,

.jon
That's gorgeous man. Well done. You should have named it "han solo's business suit". ;)

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djsubject wrote:its ready :)

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www.skirize.adbe.org/Ski_Rize.gui

:D

Subz
That's awesome too dj. Man you guys are really making eXT look toothsome (to quote ignatius).

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Hey Rick, have you tried using Fireworks at all? That is my primary tool for web and screen res layouts. Even with access to CS 2 here at work.

BTW - I just checked out your website - really nice looking stuff coming along over there!

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I love pakana's skin as it is (gamma faulty/whatever). :-P

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fandango wrote:I'm still going to tweak certain bits, but in the meantime I've uploaded the current version. There's 2 versions. One with light buttons and one with dark buttons. The light one doesn't have an illuminated Stop button, as I don't generally think Stop should have a pushed state, but the graphic is in there if you want to use it.

http://asseca.com/wiki/Skins/Sonaresque
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Great great. Wow, I should spend the $49 on eXT just to stare at such beauties like these all day. Admittedly I know I have to buy it, these beautiful interfaces really influence decisions. It's obvious that jorgen knows this because he made it skinnable ;) Smart man.

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[ xerocreep ] wrote:Hey Rick, have you tried using Fireworks at all? That is my primary tool for web and screen res layouts. Even with access to CS 2 here at work.

BTW - I just checked out your website - really nice looking stuff coming along over there!
Yep I love fireworks too but as I've confessed, am a junkie for the Adobe workflow. The type engine in Fireworks blows PS CS out of the water. Adobe just hasn't nailed type yet, favoring their own antialiasing algorithms (which totally suck balls) in favor of system standards that are accessible via macromedia apps. Hopefully now that MM has been assimilated by the Adobe borg, that will change.

Fireworks owns. I find myself making much cleaner designs with it, and you are right. I know I am a fool for being addicted to the Adobe pipe, but I can't help it anymore. I'm beyond saving. I've tried to kick, several times ma, I just can't. The pressure is too much. All the kids, they don't know what it's like. They make fun. I just want to be left alone. I just want a pepsi. All I want is a f**king pepsi and she wouldn't give it to me.

and thanks :hug:

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Hahaha - nice reference!

Considering your use of different blending methods in your pieces, Fireworks wouldn't have worked well for you until the last release where they added all the nice options like overlay and soft light, etc.
The problem with Macrodobe is they can't find their *ahem* with both hands to support some of their server side products (like contribute server) that we use to empower our clients rather than bloated CMS system.. but that is a rant for a different forum.

So, when are you gonna rock eXT with a designer monkey skin?????

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[ xerocreep ] wrote:Hahaha - nice reference!

Considering your use of different blending methods in your pieces, Fireworks wouldn't have worked well for you until the last release where they added all the nice options like overlay and soft light, etc.
The problem with Macrodobe is they can't find their *ahem* with both hands to support some of their server side products (like contribute server) that we use to empower our clients rather than bloated CMS system.. but that is a rant for a different forum.

So, when are you gonna rock eXT with a designer monkey skin?????
:) Suicidal Tendencies :love:

Yeah that's part of it, and another part is layer sets nested in recursively. I'm /meticulous/ about organization/layer naming -- I've been burned by disorganization in the past, and yes it may take me an extra 20 minutes, but damnit I'll be able to pinpoint to the pixel what I am looking for within 5 clicks. I sometimes have hierarchies as deep as 7 sets down. Of course I get a little goofy sometimes with the names. That's the fun part though. You gotta have fun! I'm the worst kind of nerd - an OCD one (dont have it but act like I do).

Contribute is a great product. I didn't know there was a server for it. I've only used the first version and decided since I never used DW templates it was pretty pointless, and we found another product for this purpose until I finish rolling my own (which is closer because I just completed my framework (think rails but with PHP and proprietary database introspection) so yay!)) We should probably get a room for this convo tho. WE are going wayyyy off course here. No one wants to listen to our graphical bullshit on an audio forum. Is there an IRC channel for KVR yet? If not there should be.

As for ext skin.. I dont know if I'd even bother considering you guys have it sorted. Really my goal with the whole DM thing is to help when it's needed or asked for. Not for redundantly beautifying/improving that which is already great! I will one day of course because I like to make a nest for myself much like BONES did with his incredible offerings of tan/warm/high-tech stuff, but no idea for when. I have to buy eXT with part of the tax refund first.

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How about a skin like the one you're working on for Wusikstation? I really like that style and think Energy XT would look beyoootiful clothed in the blue skin. :love:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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grymmjack wrote: Totally agree with you man. Xara rocks the house for speed and efficiency. Yeah I use illustrator too (but not nearly to it's fullest potential) -- I'm buying Xara X for vector when I get my tax return :) I've tried the inkscape route and it's just not there for me yet. It's awesomely incredible, gimp + inkscape = powerhouse, and rival to the adobe/corel offerings in these categories which is great, but..
Inkscape really has lots of potential, but there is still much to be done, especially the performance was poor on my machine. I'm guessing that it could be better on linux. If Xara and Inkscape code will be merged, it will surely be cool.
You should be able to find a copy of CS v1.0 (CS2 is just a bunch of crap that slows things down and nothing jawdropping enough to me to upgrade) for a very reasonable price online if you are interested I get offers almost every day from OEM software houses selling them. Adobe doesn't even sell CS1 anymore that I can see, so you can't buy it direct :(
Thanks for the tip! I seem to be getting more and more regular consignments from NGOs for flyers, posters and print ads, and while pdfs work most of the time, there are many places that want eps and Xara eps just isn't compatible... and the colour management is not exactly on the level required for print. Although not that Macromedia is Adobe, I might just go for the full deal to get also Fireworks and Flash. Meanwhile I can try to joggle things thru PS Elements that came with my VAIO.

I also have a lot to learn about composition, colours, typography and whatnot and maybe having simple tools that force me to think simple is not so bad at all :D
Xara has great features that rival and exceed adobe in several respects, and for vector it cannot be beaten IMO. It's the most elegant and useful vector app I've used, but there are certain things that it cannot do that photoshop can. It's back to the whole uber-host/uber-program debate. Trying to find a single app to suit ALL your needs for every possible scenario is literally impossible, and it's wisest to just take the hit and buy what you need to stay competitive/agile in your industry of choice. KVR has taught me a great deal about this.
Yeah I don't see myself abandoning Xara for basic work, it feels just so natural to use. But sooner or later I'll need InDesign or Acrobat, like you said I just have to bite the bullet.

Thanks for the comment, and I'm looking forward to seeing your eXT skins!

.jon

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[ xerocreep ] wrote:So, when are you gonna rock eXT with a designer monkey skin?????
What are you doing here Kelly?

:D

Have you joined the eXT bandwagon?
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Teksonik wrote:How about a skin like the one you're working on for Wusikstation? I really like that style and think Energy XT would look beyoootiful clothed in the blue skin. :love:
I can't make any promises but that's on my request list.

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CURRENT COMMITMENTS
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01  WusikStation by Wusik
02  --- CONFIDENTIAL ---
03  GVST FX series
04  Fretted Synth - FreeAMP SE

FUTURE PROJECTS
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05  Oatmeal
06  eXT (Blue for teksonik)
07  Bluecat FX series
08  Spinaudio Essential Series
09  ComputerMuzys
10  MuTools LUNA 

COMPLETED PROJECTS
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01  skNote Grainz
02  Dover BD
03  GVST GMulti
04  FrettedSynth PhazOsc
There is the future of DM skins. My policy is and will always be open book. Perhaps I should put this on my site, so that people could see what was in the queue? I dunno. I use it for internal reference.
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pakana wrote:Inkscape really has lots of potential, but there is still much to be done, especially the performance was poor on my machine. I'm guessing that it could be better on linux. If Xara and Inkscape code will be merged, it will surely be cool.
The opensource future looks bright! Can't wait for Xara to opensource. Going to make things so much better I think.
pakana wrote:Thanks for the tip! I seem to be getting more and more regular consignments from NGOs for flyers, posters and print ads, and while pdfs work most of the time, there are many places that want eps and Xara eps just isn't compatible... and the colour management is not exactly on the level required for print. Although not that Macromedia is Adobe, I might just go for the full deal to get also Fireworks and Flash. Meanwhile I can try to joggle things thru PS Elements that came with my VAIO.
Yeah it's unfortunate but true, if you want to do print you kinda need Adobe, Corel, or Quark. InDesign is excellent. Definitely get Studio 8 bundle. Worth every penny.
pakana wrote:I also have a lot to learn about composition, colours, typography and whatnot and maybe having simple tools that force me to think simple is not so bad at all :D
Always learning myself too. Colors are such a struggle for me sometimes. I'll PM you regarding this.
Yeah I don't see myself abandoning Xara for basic work, it feels just so natural to use. But sooner or later I'll need InDesign or Acrobat, like you said I just have to bite the bullet.
Yeah the illustrator EPS is a bummer. It's amazing program but Adobe has a stranglehold on some of the print industry and it's tightening every year.
Thanks for the comment, and I'm looking forward to seeing your eXT skins!
I just hope I can make something as great as yours man. PM on the way.

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Sickle wrote:
[ xerocreep ] wrote:So, when are you gonna rock eXT with a designer monkey skin?????
What are you doing here Kelly?

:D

Have you joined the eXT bandwagon?
I just downloaded my first demo of eXT yesterday, and so far i am absolutely in love with it. If i can figure out how to program my traditional drum patterns with it, i will never look back at FL. Not to mention the skinning ability, I love stuff I can skin!

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