CLAP... thoughts?
- KVRAF
- 26961 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
As a Bitwig user, CLAP is one of the more exciting features to come along. I keep finding new ways to use Bitwig's modulation system and the u-he synth betas currently available in ways that are not possible with VST versions. CLAP is especially great for MPE sound design! 
- u-he
- 30204 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
and on macOS:Urs wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:04 amYes. I posted a screenshot here:
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 11 Mar, 2014
Wow awsome! Cant wait!Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:09 amand on macOS:Urs wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:04 amYes. I posted a screenshot here:
viewtopic.php?p=8476149#p8476149
CLAP-as-VST3_mac.jpg
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Maybe need to get the CLAP SDK asap to play a bit with it.
Wondering what are the limitation of the JUCE CLAP integration? Somebody has explored that or is this known already?!
- KVRAF
- 24414 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Surge XT, ChowDSP and AudioThing plugins all use the unofficial CLAP wrappers for JUCE. I think TAL as well. Surge and TAL J-8 both also employ polyphonic modulation.
- KVRAF
- 4889 posts since 13 May, 2004
Hi Urs,Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:09 amand on macOS:Urs wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:04 amYes. I posted a screenshot here:
viewtopic.php?p=8476149#p8476149
CLAP-as-VST3_mac.jpg
will this wrapper be made publicly available?
- u-he
- 30204 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
But of course! It currently lives in a private repository, but I think it's planned to move it to the CLAP repositories. I also overheard talk that it's nearly finished and that CLAP-as-AU is next.moss wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:42 amHi Urs,Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:09 amand on macOS:Urs wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:04 amYes. I posted a screenshot here:
viewtopic.php?p=8476149#p8476149
CLAP-as-VST3_mac.jpg
will this wrapper be made publicly available?
(Gotta watch your new vid today!)
- KVRAF
- 4889 posts since 13 May, 2004
Great!Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:32 amBut of course! It currently lives in a private repository, but I think it's planned to move it to the CLAP repositories. I also overheard talk that it's nearly finished and that CLAP-as-AU is next.
Thanks
Maybe you could add my playlist to the CLAP homepage as well? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... xRIw0s5XLS
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
I mean I’ve explored itAmeyah wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:31 amWow awsome! Cant wait!Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:09 amand on macOS:Urs wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:04 amYes. I posted a screenshot here:
viewtopic.php?p=8476149#p8476149
CLAP-as-VST3_mac.jpg![]()
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Maybe need to get the CLAP SDK asap to play a bit with it.
Wondering what are the limitation of the JUCE CLAP integration? Somebody has explored that or is this known already?!
So if you just use the simple out of the box 3-lines in your cmake and you get a clap juce extensions, the clap that results is similar to the vst3 vst2 au etc… (it’s actually better than the vst3 in one regard as I recently discovered and missing a couple of things which haven’t hurt us)
The power comes with the extensions which let you get at the entire clap api and are really powerful. But those extensions do have some risks - mostly that if the juce team ever did offer clap support they wouldn’t be part of the official kit. You can read that in the readme.
Finally we are happy to take ideas and changes and so on to expand the api. Just drop an issue on our GitHub!
- u-he
- 30204 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- KVRAF
- 4889 posts since 13 May, 2004
Great, thanks!Urs wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:57 pmSure can!
https://cleveraudio.org/clap-in-the-new ... about-clap
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12037 posts since 12 May, 2008
Does the J-8 polymod actually work for you? For me in Bitwig it's changing the UI slider. Doesn't happen with Diva.EvilDragon wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:32 am Surge XT, ChowDSP and AudioThing plugins all use the unofficial CLAP wrappers for JUCE. I think TAL as well. Surge and TAL J-8 both also employ polyphonic modulation.
- KVRAF
- 24414 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Hmmm yeah something's not quite right there...
- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
It is definitely not Polymod. Tried on Filter Cutoff and Cross-modulation. Neither responded to poly on an LFO or Envelope.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:14 pmDoes the J-8 polymod actually work for you? For me in Bitwig it's changing the UI slider. Doesn't happen with Diva.EvilDragon wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:32 am Surge XT, ChowDSP and AudioThing plugins all use the unofficial CLAP wrappers for JUCE. I think TAL as well. Surge and TAL J-8 both also employ polyphonic modulation.
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
TAL-J-8 only supports MPE note pitch, which also works in their VST version. There are no CLAP poly-mod features, and even via MPE, per-note expression is not possible.
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
It occurs to me that Bitwig still has some ways to go to fully support CLAP poly-mod. Currently you are limited to two poly-mod automation curves (timber and pressure). These should be arbitrary, and not named after the MPE note expressions.
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
