KVR Audio

Spectre · Post by **Spectre** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:55 am

Hey there,

I couldn't find whether this has been covered before, I'm looking for a VST that will mono a signal under a given frequency, EG 300hz.

I know the new Reason has one built in...

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:14 am

basslane was made just for that

Betabugs is working on one that will be awesomes

;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:04 am

Spectre wrote:Hey there,

I couldn't find whether this has been covered before, I'm looking for a VST that will mono a signal under a given frequency, EG 300hz.

I know the new Reason has one built in...

Ozone can do it at least. But I think the plugin is total overkill for merely that reason.

By the way, it should be possible to patch something doing that with SynthEdit in less than 10 minutes
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;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:07 am

Chase wrote:basslane was made just for that

Betabugs is working on one that will be awesomes

Awesome?
What can be so awesome monoing below a certain frequency or maybe a multiband stereo imager?

Well, we'll see.

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morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:11 am

I think the post was getting at a plugin that can change stereo to mono below a certain frequency.

;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:19 am

morelia wrote:I think the post was getting at a plugin that can change stereo to mono below a certain frequency.

And? Did someone say anything different here?

I mean, why did you repeat it?

A multiband stereo imager does that usually.
Also the tool mentioned above (BassLane).

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morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:30 am

My mistake. I just thought you were thinking of a stereo enhancer, which was what I thought when I first saw this thread. Again, my mistake.

;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:38 am

morelia wrote:My mistake. I just thought you were thinking of a stereo enhancer, which was what I thought when I first saw this thread. Again, my mistake.

Not a mistake at all.

A "stereo enhancer" often does also stereo limiting (bidirectional adjust mono <-> stereo <-> enhanced stereo). Because it is conceptually wery close and easiely combinable.

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Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:38 am

The Betabugs one mentioned (whoah, good memory, Chase!) is a multiband stereo imager with user-definable crossover and range. It may not end up being the only plug of its kind, but we think it'll do a great job of it.

WideBug isn't the first stereo imaging plug, either, but people seem to like it!

In the meantime, there are LOTS of ways you can do it without a multiband stereo imager. Well, in programs like Tracktion and eXT at least. Just link your audio to a pair of filters, one highpass and one lowpass. Then, after the lowpass, take the resulting signal and sum it to mono (by cross-connecting the cables or by whatever other summing method you're comfortable with) before sending it through.

Could be done in Tracktion at least without any additional 3rd party plugs beyond the native Tracktion filters.

;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:40 am

Intersting.
How many bands will it have?
And is the stereo enhancing absolutely mono compatible? Which kind of stereo enhancing uses it?

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Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:42 am

The Betabugs one will have 3. The Tracktion-made one could have as many as you want.

Get yourself a non-resonant bandpass filter and bob's your uncle. In fact, you could use it in conjunction with any stereo imager, like Widebug.

Here's a screenshot of non-stereo imager "bass frequency monomaker":

I'll make the stereo imager one in a sec... won't take long...

funkadil · Post by **funkadil** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:42 am

THis make me think of something. Is there a plug that will split frequencies into a multi out vst? would be cool in eXT, buzz, other modular hosts (all hosts really)! you could easily get that effect then. It would be like an eq without gain. huh, huh, huh, huh, huh?!!!!!

EDIT: I see thats what you were speaking of while I wrote my post ( I think?). Is this betabugs plug gonna be multi-out or what? The filter thing sound feasible though. I never thought to ask this but, how does a filter work? say you put my plugin idea without effects, would it be accurate enough to unalter the sound? I don't see how it would work.

;-) · Post by **;-)** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:45 am

funkadil wrote:THis make me think of something. Is there a plug that will split frequencies into a multi out vst? would be cool in eXT, buzz, other modular hosts (all hosts really)! you could easily get that effect then. It would be like an eq without gain. huh, huh, huh, huh, huh?!!!!!

Yes there is one.

[edit] Sorry, mistake.
Mismatched it with a stereo image split VST effect.

Sorry.

But if I understood the previous posts right, you actually can do that with a certain host application already...

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soma · Post by **soma** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:48 am

This one is great:
xspace by plattermatic (xoxos?)
http://www.dancetech.com/FILE-Library/P ... "subtracts L from R, R from L or mono sum from L-R, runs derivation through delay, channel swap, filter, then adds another 'near reflections' delay.. can be used as a 'spacial positioner,' exciter, fuc"

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:50 am

I kept the low/high-pass filters from Tracktion, and then used Bugpass for the middle frequency. Crossovers can be whatever you want. Then each Widebug controls sthe stereo image for whatever's being fed into it.

Just a wee tiny example of what modular hosts can do for the creative, and this wasn't even wacky. Download Subminimal's Konstrux and see what you can come up with.

Worth noting: since stereo wideners use time-domain techniques, having a bunch of frequencies being shifted through time in different ways will produce some interesting (and not always desirable!) artifacts.

Greg

Stereo image VST search.....