Does anyone know of a way to achieve this effect with a virtual rig (with the ability to record the resulting feedback)? Is there a VST plugin that would emulate this? Am I making sense?
Guitar feedback (the good kind)
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 28 Feb, 2005 from Michigan
I've gone pretty much all virtual as far as my guitar rig goes, mainly because I record and rarely play live anymore. But there's one thing I miss about my old rig -- playing really loud and getting cool feedback going, like Hendrix, Sonic Youth, etc.
Does anyone know of a way to achieve this effect with a virtual rig (with the ability to record the resulting feedback)? Is there a VST plugin that would emulate this? Am I making sense?
Does anyone know of a way to achieve this effect with a virtual rig (with the ability to record the resulting feedback)? Is there a VST plugin that would emulate this? Am I making sense?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Yup, you're making sense. Nope, there's no currently 'fantastic' way to do it. Betabugs has a work-in-progress that hasn't been dusted off in a little while. Very usable by most people's reckoning, though I admit I haven't diddled with it much myself.
I noticed in the Boss GT-6 effects/sim, there's a feedbacker module, so such an idea clearly isn't nutty.
In the meantime, if your monitor speakers can handle it, just crank up a bit, and re-record the resulting feedback joy with a microphone.
Why simulate what can be made for real? 
Greg
I noticed in the Boss GT-6 effects/sim, there's a feedbacker module, so such an idea clearly isn't nutty.
In the meantime, if your monitor speakers can handle it, just crank up a bit, and re-record the resulting feedback joy with a microphone.
Why simulate what can be made for real? Greg
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- KVRist
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
I have Korg Pandora PX4 which has a feedback effect setting which while you can get some really good sounds from it, the feedback sounds like crap. The good thing about the live setting is that you can control it. You can't with these units. Hmmm...I should see what the AX3000 will let me do. Might be able to control it from the expression pedal, to make it sound more realistic.Lunch Money wrote: I noticed in the Boss GT-6 effects/sim, there's a feedbacker module, so such an idea clearly isn't nutty.
Greg
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championrabbit championrabbit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=53166
- KVRian
- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Ebow?
Or run a parallel signal into a cheapo amp and use that for feed back. Don't use the cheapo amp for it's sound, just for creating feedback.
Or run a parallel signal into a cheapo amp and use that for feed back. Don't use the cheapo amp for it's sound, just for creating feedback.
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 19 Mar, 2002 from Victoria, BC
also, if you have an extra output on your soundcard, you could try sticking one of these on your guitar somewhere. Using a footpedal to control the signal being fed directly into the body of the guitar might give some neat results.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Good point. <slaps head>Musicmad wrote:Actually there is no need to mike it up. Just crank it up and record like you usually do.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35506 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Or one of these:glurgle wrote:also, if you have an extra output on your soundcard, you could try sticking one of these on your guitar somewhere. Using a footpedal to control the signal being fed directly into the body of the guitar might give some neat results.
http://www.soundbug.biz/
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Just put your guitar pickups right in front of the monitors.
If you stay close enough you don't even have to crank it up so high.
If you boost the highs you can go into feedback even faster.
And if you happen use a semi-hollow guitar then it's even faster.
If you stay close enough you don't even have to crank it up so high.
If you boost the highs you can go into feedback even faster.
And if you happen use a semi-hollow guitar then it's even faster.
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AdmiralQuality AdmiralQuality https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=83902
- Banned
- 6657 posts since 10 Oct, 2005 from Toronto, Canada
Take your headphones with a really loud live guitar signal, and press them hard against the body of your guitar (well away from the pickups so you don't get any magnetic pickup from the headphones -- the lower cutaway horn on a Strat works well for this).
Delaying the signal by a few milliseconds will help too, though most DAWs have a bit of latency that will effectively do the same thing.
No joke, this works! But the signal has to be LOUD in the headphones. Its also obviously a little awkward to play. Somebody needs to make a silent guitar-mounted transducer that puts low frequency vibrations into the body of the guitar to simulate acoustic feedback!
Delaying the signal by a few milliseconds will help too, though most DAWs have a bit of latency that will effectively do the same thing.
No joke, this works! But the signal has to be LOUD in the headphones. Its also obviously a little awkward to play. Somebody needs to make a silent guitar-mounted transducer that puts low frequency vibrations into the body of the guitar to simulate acoustic feedback!
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- KVRian
- 529 posts since 7 Apr, 2003 from Nashville
What you want is a Betabugs/Christian Budde VST called FeedBug. Works great, I love it, I used it on a Newbie Brad track called "Feedbug" on my cd "Preoccupation". I don't know if it's (the VST) ever going to be released or not. Maybe if you asked Christian Budde pretty please he might help you.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 28 Feb, 2005 from Michigan
Thanks for the, um, feedback ! 
I'm going to try your suggestions, particularly the BetaBugs VST.
I'm going to try your suggestions, particularly the BetaBugs VST.
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- KVRian
- 769 posts since 2 Apr, 2005
Real feedback is impossible to fake, because it is a physical extension of the string vibration. If you are happy with fake feedback, you may as well simply use a sinewave from a synth, and send that through your amp sim. At least you will have full control over the pitch and level, and should sound as good as you can get.
A small battery amp - like a plastic Fender ToneMaster toy - is excellent for inducing feedback at very low level. Use a splitter cable/box to feed this while you DI. The speaker actually vibrates the string, and you can have infinite sustain, and total out-of-control feedback, without annoying the neighbours.
A small battery amp - like a plastic Fender ToneMaster toy - is excellent for inducing feedback at very low level. Use a splitter cable/box to feed this while you DI. The speaker actually vibrates the string, and you can have infinite sustain, and total out-of-control feedback, without annoying the neighbours.