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pschelfh · Post by **pschelfh** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:46 pm

Hi guys,

I'm looking for realistic (Uilean and Highland) bagpipe samples.

I already listened to demos of East West Colossus (seems very real but rather expensive), Bigfish Celtic Instruments (seems OK) and Ilio World Winds (seems to sound more like a fiddle).

Does anyone have experience with the sounds of these libraries or know if there are others available ? Also, what's the best technique to make it sound real when playing a keyboard (eg. wobbling the pitch at the beginning of a note) ?

Thanks,

Peter.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:55 pm

You might give EMM Knagalis a go:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/676.html

stephenpaulharper · Post by **stephenpaulharper** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:23 pm

These are good:

http://www.vrsound.com/bp_Bagpipes.html

Also www.sf2midi.com has a soundfont called celtix2004 that has a very realistic bagpipe, but it's limited to the actual range of the pipes.

Max el Belga · Post by **Max el Belga** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:37 pm

EMM Knagalis; the demo is nearly completly functional (part of the presets function but you can't save them, no problem though because the sounds are supperb) ! (also great sitars etc.)

Götterfunke · Post by **Götterfunke** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:49 pm

algodon wrote:These are good:

http://www.vrsound.com/bp_Bagpipes.html

Their website looks pretty wild....

teacue · Post by **teacue** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:40 am

Hello,

looking too for a Uilleann Pipe, I ordered and got a couple of days ago "World Winds" from Ilio.
I was first disapointed because of the fact that the straight notes sound each very different.
Some samples have a heavy vibrato, some have not.
Also the timbre of some sample can change within the note self.
But I believe it has to do with this very particular instrument and the way one play it.
And finally this changing timbre within a note is a caracteristic of the Uilleann.
After experimenting a bit I found out that it is possible to produce a sound that really has the authentic sound of a Uilleann Pipe.
But it might afford more work than say with a Tin Whistle.
One would have to carefully choose the bended notes, where to use vibrato, what kind of grace notes and so on and so on.
(I even consider to find new loops for some samples in order to have the possibility to play some notes without vibrato)
Sure it still will not sound like Davy Spillane

But you can hear it is a Uilleann Pipe

FYI there are three Uilleann Pipes: B flat, C and D.
Each instrument has 15 samples in several variations (each variation has 15 samples):
. Straight
. Bend (each note slowly bended from the lower one)
. Grace 1
. Grace 2
There are also a few samples named "short"
And there is one drone sample for each Instrument.

This said, I cannot compare with the other Uilleann Pipes samples collection you mention as I dont have them.

I found the "Scots Highland Pipes" from World Wind not so good(very few samples)
I would also go for EMM Knagalis.

Hope this helps
Regards

pschelfh · Post by **pschelfh** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:36 am

Thanks for the tips ! The bagpipe in EMM Knagalis sounds real enough for my needs.

Peter.

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:39 am

if you just need bagpipes visit www.wizoosounds.com
they have a pretty cheap but good-sounding one for download
if you need a lot variety: http://www.banchetto-musicale.com/

cheers, akj

Aim Day Co · Post by **Aim Day Co** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:48 pm

teacue wrote:Hello,

looking too for a Uilleann Pipe, I ordered and got a couple of days ago "World Winds" from Ilio.
I was first disapointed because of the fact that the straight notes sound each very different.

Hope this helps
Regards

teacue, what program are you running the Ilio samples on?

Mark

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:59 pm

AKJ wrote:if you just need bagpipes visit www.wizoosounds.com
they have a pretty cheap but good-sounding one for download
if you need a lot variety: http://www.banchetto-musicale.com/

cheers, akj

I have also bought and used the Wizoo bagpipe. It is VERY cheap, and sounds pretty good. Every note sounds different, but not in a bad way. They are consistent, with little tiny flourishes to make the sound more authentic.

But for the price, I've gotten some very good use of it.

koolkeys

teacue · Post by **teacue** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:45 am

Aim Day Co wrote:[teacue, what program are you running the Ilio samples on?

I converted the AKAI CD with CDXTRACT 4 and run the samples on the last version of VSampler.

Dause · Post by **Dause** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:33 pm

AKJ wrote:...
if you need a lot variety: http://www.banchetto-musicale.com/

cheers, akj

The Pipes from the Banchetto Musicale library have been brought to new life as the sample base of our BagPipes VST instrument:

www.soundbytes.de/BagPipes

Andreas Sumerauer

Bela D Media · Post by **Bela D Media** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:41 pm

ANTHOLOGY: CELTIC WIND

Bela D Media presents the next generation of sampled World Instruments for Kontakt2 and *GigaStudio/GS3. Anthology, produced by Eduardo Tarilonte, is a projected multi volume sample collection of authentic instruments from various countries and cultures.

Joined together with unique and inspiring sounds, Celtic Wind promises to deliver the ultimate in composer friendly playability. All that breeds' life to this sacred set of instruments is kept intact. Elements like that of user controlled instrument noises and triggered vocal breathing add authenticity to any MIDI orchestration. From the Highland Pipes to Celtiberic War Horn.

Authentic
Advanced
Affordable

The Instruments
Highland Pipe
Uilleann Pipe
Bombarde
Whistle D
Low Whistle F
Tin Whistle F
Concertina
Accordion
Celtiberic War Horn

http://www.beladmedia.com/celtic-wind.htm

* Bela D Media has intentions to release this product in a native GigaStudio/GS3 version. The Kontakt 2 version makes great use of advanced scripting and we are currently in the process of obtaining a method of matching that power within the non-scripting limitations of GigaStudio/GS3.

Vonbrucken · Post by **Vonbrucken** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:23 pm

Bela D Media wrote:ANTHOLOGY: CELTIC WIND

Bela D Media presents the next generation of sampled World Instruments for Kontakt2 and *GigaStudio/GS3. Anthology, produced by Eduardo Tarilonte, is a projected multi volume sample collection of authentic instruments from various countries and cultures.

Joined together with unique and inspiring sounds, Celtic Wind promises to deliver the ultimate in composer friendly playability. All that breeds' life to this sacred set of instruments is kept intact. Elements like that of user controlled instrument noises and triggered vocal breathing add authenticity to any MIDI orchestration. From the Highland Pipes to Celtiberic War Horn.

Authentic
Advanced
Affordable

The Instruments
Highland Pipe
Uilleann Pipe
Bombarde
Whistle D
Low Whistle F
Tin Whistle F
Concertina
Accordion
Celtiberic War Horn

http://www.beladmedia.com/celtic-wind.htm

* Bela D Media has intentions to release this product in a native GigaStudio/GS3 version. The Kontakt 2 version makes great use of advanced scripting and we are currently in the process of obtaining a method of matching that power within the non-scripting limitations of GigaStudio/GS3.

sounds good any GB in mind ?

Bela D Media · Post by **Bela D Media** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:40 pm

The product is too new to be offered via Group Buy. Next year perhaps.

Best,

Realistic Bagpipes