Hello to everybody.
I'm very interested in Cantabile and I'm currently testing the evaluation version.
I like a lot of things, but currently I have a little trouble understanding the audio meters because there's no indication of the 0 dB point and the meters have not the usual green/red color, so I cannot understand which is the available headroom for my patches.
Can someone explain me how this meters work?
thank you very much in advance
Walter
cantabile meters
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- KVRAF
- 2310 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Germany
I agree to your complain.
However digital systems do not really have a headroom... the headroom is just the bits you leave unused in case there are some spikes, in hope you won't get a clipping...
However digital systems do not really have a headroom... the headroom is just the bits you leave unused in case there are some spikes, in hope you won't get a clipping...
Best regards, TiUser
...and keep on jamming...
...and keep on jamming...
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from Germany
Agreed, this could be arranged in a better more transparent way. And TiUser is right: any host application has the same "headroom" of exactly 0dB available. If you want a headroom you have to define it for yourself and have a look to always stay beyond the maxlevel.
But there is one little goodie implemented in cantabile: under "Setup" - "Audio Engine Options" - "Audio Engine" you find a clickbox named "Enable Outer Limiter". If you enable this there is a limiter that prohibits clipping. If your level is much too high you will notice typical heavy limiting behavior. This is the point where you know that your masterlevel is too high.
For me it was a useful tooling as it helped me to get a feeling for the output level and in live situations it helps to avoid clipping. My hint for you is to check out this by intentionally using very high levels and get a feeling for this. If used properly the limiter should not be heared.
Maybe this can be of some help,
kind regards, humphrey
But there is one little goodie implemented in cantabile: under "Setup" - "Audio Engine Options" - "Audio Engine" you find a clickbox named "Enable Outer Limiter". If you enable this there is a limiter that prohibits clipping. If your level is much too high you will notice typical heavy limiting behavior. This is the point where you know that your masterlevel is too high.
For me it was a useful tooling as it helped me to get a feeling for the output level and in live situations it helps to avoid clipping. My hint for you is to check out this by intentionally using very high levels and get a feeling for this. If used properly the limiter should not be heared.
Maybe this can be of some help,
kind regards, humphrey
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hardware: i7 4770k, i7 4702qm, all audio converters RME, KH120A
vsts / vstis: u-he, voxengo, fabfilter, izotope, lexicon, waves, spectrasonics, ni, steinberg, gsi, uvi, xfer & others
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- KVRAF
- 2310 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Germany
humphrey wrote:... you find a clickbox named "Enable Outer Limiter". If you enable this there is a limiter that prohibits clipping.
I think I have the limiter switched on myself too...
Best regards, TiUser
...and keep on jamming...
...and keep on jamming...
