So here's the situation...
We got Live 4, Wavelab 5, Sonar 4 and Cubase SX 3.
What about those guys from Sweden? what's going on? Where is Reason 3?
'cause "Drum Kit Refill" is hardly a subtitute.
Ace
Reason 3?
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- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
another day
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same question
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same question
sound is vibration, vibration is life
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
It's in the laboratory, of course. The Props have to have a reinforced concrete lab room so it doesn't break loose and terrorize the Swedish countryside.
I can't wait to see Reason 3! But wait is what we'll have to do. The Props have a policy of not announcing upcoming releases until a product is close to ready, generally around beta time.
Keeps us mystified, yes. But it also means they never have to go back on premature, over-enthusiastic estimates: "Norman, we're sorry -- we said ReBates 1.0 would be out in late October, just in time to perform the soundtrack for your 'Psycho' movie party, but it will be delayed while we fix bugs..." ;-)
Meffy
I can't wait to see Reason 3! But wait is what we'll have to do. The Props have a policy of not announcing upcoming releases until a product is close to ready, generally around beta time.
Keeps us mystified, yes. But it also means they never have to go back on premature, over-enthusiastic estimates: "Norman, we're sorry -- we said ReBates 1.0 would be out in late October, just in time to perform the soundtrack for your 'Psycho' movie party, but it will be delayed while we fix bugs..." ;-)
Meffy
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- KVRAF
- 7315 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
The Prop's have a carrot on a stick policy of announcing products. I love their software, but their attitude f**king sucks dog dick.
My humble opinion of course
My humble opinion of course
My Youtube Channel - Wires Dream Disasters
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neverwhere2012 neverwhere2012 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23348
- KVRist
- 420 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from grand rapids, michigan
as much as i may slag reason sometimes, i think reason 3 will be pretty cool... at least for a month 
hopefully the props follow their previous upgrade example and offer a free download to registered 2.5 users.... i think the only way i'd pay to upgrade reason at this point is if they added some new synths and a complete overhaul of the sequencer 
hopefully the props follow their previous upgrade example and offer a free download to registered 2.5 users.... i think the only way i'd pay to upgrade reason at this point is if they added some new synths and a complete overhaul of the sequencer -
- KVRian
- 995 posts since 4 Mar, 2004
I 've seen those plan. files and they don't fool me either , I bet there's a back room (see above) that they don't show , there's always a back room they don't show , Like in the guitar/keyboards shop when they have like five products on display and 50 better ones in the back room you'd think the (most likely) boring Swedish countryside could do with a bit of a stirring now and then ?Whoomph wrote:For me i'ts not the where but the how much ? ,
Um .. I mean't When oops ..
meffy wrote:It's in the laboratory, of course. The Props have to have a reinforced concrete lab room so it doesn't break loose and terrorize the Swedish countryside.
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- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
Actually reason 2.5 is keeping my hands full with what it already does. That said, I would love to see the sequencer developed further.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
I totally lolve Reason 2.5, and I'm in no hurry for an upgrade.DKeenum wrote:Actually reason 2.5 is keeping my hands full with what it already does. That said, I would love to see the sequencer developed further.
When they do release one I'd also like to see some improvements to the sequencer.
And also...
I think that the compressor and EQ particularly need improving, as they already did with the reverb by introducing RV7000.
Also, the mixing desk...
And lastly, it would be great to be able to rescale/resize the rack to fit your screen without changing the resolution. As I'm working on 1400 X 1050 everything looks weeny-weeny on my screen at present.
But i don;t believe in perfection, and the quirkiness of Reason 2.5 is probably one of the reasons I love it so much
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
My most profound thanks to everyone who hasn't mentioned the dreaded "big three" Reason feature requests. If all the world could just be so sensible!
Ghawds, I'm proud of y'all... *sniffle* Here -- ham biscuits for everyone!
(*pulls lever to operate Overhead Ham Biscuit Drop Mechanism [pat. pending]*)
Meffy
Ghawds, I'm proud of y'all... *sniffle* Here -- ham biscuits for everyone!
(*pulls lever to operate Overhead Ham Biscuit Drop Mechanism [pat. pending]*)
Meffy
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
I was gonna say Donkey Cock..but hey, who needs to split hairsAmberience wrote:The Prop's have a carrot on a stick policy of announcing products. I love their software, but their attitude f**king sucks dog dick.
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- KVRist
- 49 posts since 25 Jan, 2003 from UK
Erm...Rebirth for OSX *cough* *cough*Meffy wrote:The Props have a policy of not announcing upcoming releases until a product is close to ready, generally around beta time.
it also means they never have to go back on premature, over-enthusiastic estimates: "Norman, we're sorry -- we said ReBates 1.0 would be out in late October, just in time to perform the soundtrack for your 'Psycho' movie party, but it will be delayed while we fix bugs..."
They announced development for that over two years ago. I seriously doubt they are ever going to get round to it...
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Absolutely -- that I really want to see, and I'm not even a potential customer for it! They owe it to customers.deep wrote:Erm...Rebirth for OSX *cough* *cough*
Meffy
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- KVRAF
- 37418 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I have a lot of respect for Props taking their time to hone their products and not tantalising users with empty promises. I wish more companies would follow their example.
Firstly I'm fed up with the number of companies that release an "major" update every year or even less (e.g Sonar, SX). It's expensive and it locks users into an endless upgrade cycle and continuous changes - you never sit still long enough to get to know what you are doing.
Secondly, many developers also are too quick to release poorly tested and half finished products as full iterations - turning their user base into a bunch of glorified beta testers until the product gets into something like a reasonably stable form, then it's straight onto the next version - SX seems the worst for this but I can think of others too and some products should never have been released as version 1's even they are so unfinished - at least a few devs like the makers of Synthedit, Audiomulch and Plogue have the decency and honesty to keep their products in beta form till they are fully developed.
If taking their time means users get a well tested, robust and functional product and without having to update it every few months then good for them.
Firstly I'm fed up with the number of companies that release an "major" update every year or even less (e.g Sonar, SX). It's expensive and it locks users into an endless upgrade cycle and continuous changes - you never sit still long enough to get to know what you are doing.
Secondly, many developers also are too quick to release poorly tested and half finished products as full iterations - turning their user base into a bunch of glorified beta testers until the product gets into something like a reasonably stable form, then it's straight onto the next version - SX seems the worst for this but I can think of others too and some products should never have been released as version 1's even they are so unfinished - at least a few devs like the makers of Synthedit, Audiomulch and Plogue have the decency and honesty to keep their products in beta form till they are fully developed.
If taking their time means users get a well tested, robust and functional product and without having to update it every few months then good for them.
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- KVRist
- 116 posts since 4 Dec, 2002 from portland, or
At some point Reason joins Rebirth as a dead product.
That point is probrobly next years musikmesse, but may have been this summer. The world has moved on and Reason has not. Its still a good product--although it lacks several key quality fx (compression, eq, delay)and the synths are mediocre--it is still probrobly the best sampler set up around.
Re the big 3: midi out, vst, and audio--I doubt it. Props are now so far behind the audio curve that
making an audio product would expose them as an entry product. Who really wants to do audio with that
fx suite? My guess is that there will be a Reason 3 early next year, but that moment for Reason has passed.
Incidentally, who in the musik biz is releasing vapor
ware that prop supporters constantly cite a strawman to support Reason's glacial development pace?
That point is probrobly next years musikmesse, but may have been this summer. The world has moved on and Reason has not. Its still a good product--although it lacks several key quality fx (compression, eq, delay)and the synths are mediocre--it is still probrobly the best sampler set up around.
Re the big 3: midi out, vst, and audio--I doubt it. Props are now so far behind the audio curve that
making an audio product would expose them as an entry product. Who really wants to do audio with that
fx suite? My guess is that there will be a Reason 3 early next year, but that moment for Reason has passed.
Incidentally, who in the musik biz is releasing vapor
ware that prop supporters constantly cite a strawman to support Reason's glacial development pace?