Any way I can mimic a 90's effects rack?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
Let's say you have a sampler. And you're about to mix your breakbeat or whatever. But it's the 90's and you're limited to rack mounted modules. And I'm not asking for drum specific effects. Just anything in general. I'm a heavy FL studio user and loading plain plug-ins in the mixer is fine. I was wondering if there's a more authentic vst version. And yes we have this so called Patcher. But that's even worse than loading them in the mixer. It would be a great benefit if I could use other plug-ins in the rack emulation. Because I put a Decimort2 on everything because that's what emulates a sampler for me. I know about soundtoys and waves but those are pretty modern and not the type of effects I'd want. I was thinking it would be best if it was more ancient than modern. I'm not against cheap or free plug-ins. I want something that screams "yup this has been collecting dust in someone's bedroom for 20 years". So something g you'd use in the late 90's or early 2000's. And I don't want physical modules. Those are way out of my expense.
- KVRAF
- 5493 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Plogue Chipcrusher https://www.plogue.com/products/chipcrusher.html
Arturia Emulator V
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... v/overview
Relab LX480
https://relabdevelopment.com/lx480-dual-engine-reverb/
Eventide H3000 Factory
https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/h3000-factory/
IK Multimedia Comprexxor
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trcomprexxor/
Arturia Emulator V
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... v/overview
Relab LX480
https://relabdevelopment.com/lx480-dual-engine-reverb/
Eventide H3000 Factory
https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/h3000-factory/
IK Multimedia Comprexxor
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trcomprexxor/
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
So you're saying I should just give up on the idea of emulating a rack? And that I should just stick to the common way because there's no benefit in emulating a rack? I know most of those plug-ins. Besides the bitcrusher, you're right that's the type of effects I'd expect. Although, those are pretty modern too.jamcat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:26 pm Plogue Chipcrusher https://www.plogue.com/products/chipcrusher.html
Arturia Emulator V
https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... v/overview
Relab LX480
https://relabdevelopment.com/lx480-dual-engine-reverb/
Eventide H3000 Factory
https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/h3000-factory/
IK Multimedia Comprexxor
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trcomprexxor/
- KVRAF
- 7745 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
TAL DAC
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-dac
(Says 80s but most of us we're using old, cheap 80s gear in the 90s anyway. )
Toneboosters Time Machine v3
https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html
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https://tal-software.com/products/tal-dac
(Says 80s but most of us we're using old, cheap 80s gear in the 90s anyway. )
Toneboosters Time Machine v3
https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html
(scroll to bottom for free legacy products)
- Beware the Quoth
- 33156 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Decimort 2 : from 2017Alyctro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:08 pmI put a Decimort2 on everything because that's what emulates a sampler for me. I know about soundtoys and waves but those are pretty modern and not the type of effects I'd want. I was thinking it would be best if it was more ancient than modern. I'm not against cheap or free plug-ins. I want something that screams "yup this has been collecting dust in someone's bedroom for 20 years".
Waves plugins : 1993 onwards
Soundtoys plugins : 1996 onwards
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
Yeah i only use decimort for the emulation, but nothing else. Because i don't have anything else.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:46 pmDecimort 2 : from 2017Alyctro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:08 pmI put a Decimort2 on everything because that's what emulates a sampler for me. I know about soundtoys and waves but those are pretty modern and not the type of effects I'd want. I was thinking it would be best if it was more ancient than modern. I'm not against cheap or free plug-ins. I want something that screams "yup this has been collecting dust in someone's bedroom for 20 years".
Waves plugins : 1993 onwards
Soundtoys plugins : 1996 onwards
But wait, what you're saying is they're that old? Somehow, i believe you. Maybe i should try tracking down the ancient versions of them. I didn't say the plugin it self needs to be ancient. Only the module that it represents.
Edit: From what i read, i was amazed. I know they have a rack version thus i mentioned it. But it looks so modern that's why i didn't pick it. But aparently, all of their modules are emulations of at least 25 year old gear. I gues that's it for me then.
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 5493 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Maybe I’m not really understanding what you want, exactly. When I think of a ‘90s rack, I think of a rack full of specific digital processors from the ‘90s. Which is what these are accurate emulations of. One I forgot to include was the Lexicon PCM plugins, particularly the PCM Native Effects.Alyctro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:31 pm So you're saying I should just give up on the idea of emulating a rack? And that I should just stick to the common way because there's no benefit in emulating a rack? I know most of those plug-ins. Besides the bitcrusher, you're right that's the type of effects I'd expect. Although, those are pretty modern too.
The bitcrusher was for emulating ‘90s DACs, same as GaryG’s suggestion of TAL DAC. Relab’s LX480 actually has full 18-bit DAC emulation built in.
So what are you looking for, exactly? A single plugin like Reason Rack, or one that loads other plugins?
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
I'm not looking for a sampler, although i know that one.
- KVRAF
- 23458 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Somehow I doubt that you really know what you want - in regards to musical gear the 90's are fairly recent, not old - stuff from that period was mainly digital, whereas there's a myriad of plugins out there which emulate analog stuff that predates this digital period, often by decades.
The H3000 is a good example of highend digital stuff from that period (i.e the 90's) - however the plugin is not at all a faithful emulation of it.
But either way: there's literally thousands of plugins out there and until you have made up your mind on what it really is you're seeking, throwing suggestions in your direction doesn't really make too much sense.
The H3000 is a good example of highend digital stuff from that period (i.e the 90's) - however the plugin is not at all a faithful emulation of it.
But either way: there's literally thousands of plugins out there and until you have made up your mind on what it really is you're seeking, throwing suggestions in your direction doesn't really make too much sense.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRian
- 959 posts since 7 Dec, 2017
Thanks for mentioning this, I wasn't aware of the TX16W plugin.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
Already have emGaryG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:38 pm TAL DAC
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-dac
(Says 80s but most of us we're using old, cheap 80s gear in the 90s anyway. )
Toneboosters Time Machine v3
https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html
(scroll to bottom for free legacy products)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
Either of them. I saw reasons rack module and it's almost exactly how I imagined it but I'm not against having standalone plug-ins. I figured it doesn't matter if I stack them as any other plug-ins. If it's standalone plug-ins then I need a list of what would be mounted at that point in time. Delay, chorus, reverb, an eq, a comp etc...jamcat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:57 pmMaybe I’m not really understanding what you want, exactly. When I think of a ‘90s rack, I think of a rack full of specific digital processors from the ‘90s. Which is what these are accurate emulations of. One I forgot to include was the Lexicon PCM plugins, particularly the PCM Native Effects.Alyctro wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:31 pm So you're saying I should just give up on the idea of emulating a rack? And that I should just stick to the common way because there's no benefit in emulating a rack? I know most of those plug-ins. Besides the bitcrusher, you're right that's the type of effects I'd expect. Although, those are pretty modern too.
The bitcrusher was for emulating ‘90s DACs, same as GaryG’s suggestion of TAL DAC. Relab’s LX480 actually has full 18-bit DAC emulation built in.
So what are you looking for, exactly? A single plugin like Reason Rack, or one that loads other plugins?
And if it's a plugin that hosts its own modules like the slate virtual mastering thingy. Then the only requirement is for it to be as close to the 90's as possible. Deviations are allowed.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 89 posts since 10 Feb, 2021
I apologize if I was a bit reserved. It's exactly what you just mentioned. What I was referring to is modules that were released only up to 1999. At least in my long research I didn't come across many emulations. When I looked at a typical home recording setup. There was either an akai or an emu on top. And then there were the typical eq, reverb, comp, echo, maybe a tape machine for saturation even when the sampler it self had enough, harmonizes, limiters, distortions etc. If it was just the first two I mentioned then I would be OK. I never said it has to be analog gear. Or an analog emulation. Just gear that was accurate to that time period. And if it's still present then that's fine.jens wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:16 pm Somehow I doubt that you really know what you want - in regards to musical gear the 90's are fairly recent, not old - stuff from that period was mainly digital, whereas there's a myriad of plugins out there which emulate analog stuff that predates this digital period, often by decades.
The H3000 is a good example of highend digital stuff from that period (i.e the 90's) - however the plugin is not at all a faithful emulation of it.
But either way: there's literally thousands of plugins out there and until you have made up your mind on what it really is you're seeking, throwing suggestions in your direction doesn't really make too much sense.
- KVRian
- 1303 posts since 21 Nov, 2018