KVR Audio

11ivan11 · Post by **11ivan11** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:51 am

please someone make digitech talker for Mac OS https://en.audiofanzine.com/talkbox/digitech/talker/

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:06 am

what other vocoders have you tried, and what wasnt sufficient about them?

Dirk Diggler · Post by **Dirk Diggler** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:44 pm

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that. The hardware is very unique.
They are however going for crazy money on the used market.

11ivan11 · Post by **11ivan11** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:47 pm

daft punk had used it

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:50 pm

Yes, and they used other vocoders too. Hence asking which have you actually tried?

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:33 pm

Digitech talker is not a vocoder
LOL , 900 euro on the second hand market for a dsp based talkbox , if daft punk hadn't used it nobody whould even give a F.F. about it ( at least I don't )

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:14 pm

Make it now.

Bunny_boy · Post by **Bunny_boy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:16 pm

Isn't that what the used on Cher's Believe?

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:42 pm

Bunny_boy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:16 pm Isn't that what the used on Cher's Believe?

We live in a day and age where you only have type in the words :
-cher
-vocal effect
and with a bit of luck it gives you acces to a wealth of information , in this case sos home
-quote-
Cher's 'Believe' (December 1998) was the first commercial recording to feature the audible side-effects of Antares Auto‑Tune software used as a deliberate creative effect. The (now) highly recognisable tonal mangling occurs when the pitch correction speed is set too fast for the audio that it is processing and it became one of the most over-used production effects of the following years.

In February 1999, when this Sound On Sound article was published, the producers of this recording were apparently so keen to maintain their 'trade secret' process that they were willing to attribute the effect to the (then) recently-released Digitech Talker vocoder pedal. As most people are now all‑too familiar with the 'Cher effect', as it has become known, we have maintained the article in its original form as an interesting historical footnote. Matt Bell
-unqote-
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... er-believe

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:48 pm

Believe was done with Antares auto-tune and cher (or her producer) mistakenly called it the DigiTech talker in an interview (probably because they had tried it as a potential vocal effect before landing on Auto-tune). It's just an old digital vocoder. It was used on many famous dance records like daft punk and others from the later 90s. Probably a good buy for a used unit or for live use.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:51 pm

Yeah the person above me got it. Auto-tune went pretty crazy after Cher and then again when hip hop gat ahold of it (continuing to this day). I'm sure plenty of people went crazy trying to make a DigiTech talker sound like auto-tune After that interview.

Bunny_boy · Post by **Bunny_boy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:06 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:42 pm
Bunny_boy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:16 pm Isn't that what the used on Cher's Believe?
We live in a day and age where you only have type in the words :
-cher
-vocal effect
and with a bit of luck it gives you acces to a wealth of information , in this case sos home
-quote-
Cher's 'Believe' (December 1998) was the first commercial recording to feature the audible side-effects of Antares Auto‑Tune software used as a deliberate creative effect. The (now) highly recognisable tonal mangling occurs when the pitch correction speed is set too fast for the audio that it is processing and it became one of the most over-used production effects of the following years.

In February 1999, when this Sound On Sound article was published, the producers of this recording were apparently so keen to maintain their 'trade secret' process that they were willing to attribute the effect to the (then) recently-released Digitech Talker vocoder pedal. As most people are now all‑too familiar with the 'Cher effect', as it has become known, we have maintained the article in its original form as an interesting historical footnote. Matt Bell
-unqote-
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... er-believe

Ah, you weren't on this board in the early 2000s. It was a bit of a running joke

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:41 am

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:33 pm Digitech talker is not a vocoder

It has multiple vocoder algorithms, and the Talkbox algorithm used by Daft Punk is one of them.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/digitech-talker

Full Bucket · Post by **Full Bucket** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:30 pm

One could argue that it is not a Talk Box.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:25 pm

Full Bucket wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:30 pm One could argue that it is not a Talk Box.

Indeed; actual talkboxes werent digital like this is, they were basically leveraging acoustics of the mouth, via a speaker and microphone.
And of course, the Digitech wasnt actually trying to physically model that process. Even its manual refers to its Talkbox algorithm as a vocoder.