Learning Methods, What's working and what isn't?
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- KVRAF
- 7830 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
Recently I've decided to get serious about Travis Picking.
There's a lot of content on the web about it and not all of it is great. Some of it is over simplified and some of it is way to advanced. I tried the free route of just hunting down tabs and YT vids and it wasn't taking me where I wanted to go. I thought about going back to True Fire which has an amazing system for learning but The one thing I found out is that The truefire app didn't save my previous purchases from years gone by when I was exploring western swing.
I also fount that the lessons were too limited in and on themselves. I wanted a complete method.
I bought this guy's E-book with links to examples on this YT video
What I didn't like about it is it's not that interactive. I'd love for him to lay everything out in Guitar Pro rather than pdf. Though I know his logic. Once released into .gp everyone has the study material. Nonetheless he does have time markers for the video in the pdf.
There's a lot of content on the web about it and not all of it is great. Some of it is over simplified and some of it is way to advanced. I tried the free route of just hunting down tabs and YT vids and it wasn't taking me where I wanted to go. I thought about going back to True Fire which has an amazing system for learning but The one thing I found out is that The truefire app didn't save my previous purchases from years gone by when I was exploring western swing.
I also fount that the lessons were too limited in and on themselves. I wanted a complete method.
I bought this guy's E-book with links to examples on this YT video
What I didn't like about it is it's not that interactive. I'd love for him to lay everything out in Guitar Pro rather than pdf. Though I know his logic. Once released into .gp everyone has the study material. Nonetheless he does have time markers for the video in the pdf.
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- KVRAF
- 7097 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
As idea I like having it all on video, if tabs or fretboard like the software FretsLive or whatever it is called.
- you always loop A/B anywhere and even use a player with speed reduction if needed
- for pc I like PotPlayer which has those features
- some live stream players do not have this, so use OBS software to record screen and make mp4-videos to use PotPlayer.
But to find a course that has what you want and also have these features is not easy.
Example of FretsLive or LiveFrets or what software is called
Otherwise books are excellent, tabs in the book and if having audio downloads too.
- Usually some reading between excercises too.
- It depends on exactly what you want to learn.
Paul Davis is rather cool tutor, usually with tabs in video.
- you always loop A/B anywhere and even use a player with speed reduction if needed
- for pc I like PotPlayer which has those features
- some live stream players do not have this, so use OBS software to record screen and make mp4-videos to use PotPlayer.
But to find a course that has what you want and also have these features is not easy.
Example of FretsLive or LiveFrets or what software is called
Otherwise books are excellent, tabs in the book and if having audio downloads too.
- Usually some reading between excercises too.
- It depends on exactly what you want to learn.
Paul Davis is rather cool tutor, usually with tabs in video.
- KVRAF
- 16803 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Yeah well... you want a REAL teacher? Then FIND a real teacher!tapper mike wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:40 am What I didn't like about it is it's not that interactive.
You sit in a room together once in a while, you get lots of true interaction, and he gets paid.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7830 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
Are You going to drive me? Are You going to pay for it?BertKoor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 8:01 amYeah well... you want a REAL teacher? Then FIND a real teacher!tapper mike wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:40 am What I didn't like about it is it's not that interactive.
You sit in a room together once in a while, you get lots of true interaction, and he gets paid.
Right now it's a 45 minute drive for me to the nearest guitar store with lessons. They don't have teachers who specialize in Travis Picking which I want to learn The going rate for a 2 hour radius around me is $80 USD a half hour. I'm already a rather competent guitarist with decades of live performance behind me. Travis Picking wasn't essential for my performances.
If you like a certain approach for learning I'm happy for you. Say why YOU like the method. But don't tread on me or anyone else in this thread who chooses a different method than you.
slfm demonstrates a great example of a more interactive environment where you can slow it downand break down sections of the playing that you can easily rewatch relearn when you have time,
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- KVRAF
- 2892 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
Geez nothing is working w/these fingers . . . I still play poorly but nice of you to ask Mike
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- KVRAF
- 7097 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I found that teachers are very set in their ways. Especially piano as my experience then.BertKoor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 8:01 amYeah well... you want a REAL teacher? Then FIND a real teacher!tapper mike wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:40 am What I didn't like about it is it's not that interactive.
You sit in a room together once in a while, you get lots of true interaction, and he gets paid.
I wrote and told what I targeted, which roll models I had and type of playing I was going for.
- first lesson is free
- and they just do the classical stuff, then do Für Elise, then chopin or whatever.
If you can stand that route you surely can learn to play classical, not so sure about anything else.
- maybe you get as a start at Für Elise, in their ladder somewhere. They adapt like that, but not more is my view.
Tutors want to teach what they already know.
So needle in haystack to find tutor where everything fits.
- and you spent 100 times the money achieving very little
We also had a keyboard player in a band real long ago, he did lessons for 16 years or something like that.
- put sheet music in front of him and he shortly plays it
- just learning by listening not so much
I looked around quite a bit at various video lesson based courses. So you see a lot of really good players do tutorials. There is also varied quality to that.
Really sceptical to fokus on personal tutors.