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mikehende · Post by **mikehende** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:40 am

Denon's new DJ Tabletop cd player [DNS 1000] has an effect called "echo-loop" in it, does anyone know of any "software" that has this particular effect please? To me, the effect is simply an infinite repeat BUT you can speed it up, slow it down and adjust various parameters, Thanks.

bitcrusher · Post by **bitcrusher** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:44 am

Lucifer VST can do this sort of thing...

http://www.devine-machine.com

xander · Post by **xander** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:12 am

mikehende wrote:Denon's new DJ Tabletop cd player [DNS 1000] has an effect called "echo-loop" in it, does anyone know of any "software" that has this particular effect please? To me, the effect is simply an infinite repeat BUT you can speed it up, slow it down and adjust various parameters, Thanks.

There was a simple VSTi that was both graphically and functionally just like an old hardware 'Echoplex' tape looper with the virtual mechanical sliders and everything, but I haven't got a clue as to what happened to it. I remember trying it a couple of years ago and it was excellent. Google fails to find it as I speaketh.

Maybe someone has a link... ?

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:31 am

is this it? it's a SE effect by Elogoxa called Elotronix
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/673.html

xander · Post by **xander** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:34 am

SJ_Digriz wrote:is this it? it's a SE effect by Elogoxa called Elotronix
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/673.html

WOWEE!

That wasn't the one I was refering to, but I think it would do the job nicely!

Never heard of these guys before - just downloaded some of their plugs to try out! So cool!

mikehende · Post by **mikehende** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:56 pm

My apologies guys, I should have stated that my purpose is for "DJ" porgrams, meaning, I wish to use the effect alongside a DJ program and also use the effect "on the fly" which seems to be the major obstacle with these effects. I had looked into "Divine Machine" but got no help from their support so I had no choice but to abandon that thinking that their software cannot do it so that's why they did not reply to my pleas for help.
I will go and look into the "Elotronix" mentioned here and get back to you guys, thanks..

9b0 · Post by **9b0** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:10 pm

mikehende wrote:Denon's new DJ Tabletop cd player [DNS 1000] has an effect called "echo-loop" in it, does anyone know of any "software" that has this particular effect please? To me, the effect is simply an infinite repeat BUT you can speed it up, slow it down and adjust various parameters, Thanks.

This effects are mostly connected with a tap tempo function (Denon took this echo loop function from the Pioneer DJ effect). I think you wont find anything made like this, they mostly take the tempo data from the VST host.

mikehende · Post by **mikehende** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:11 pm

I wrote to the authors of Elotronix,let's see what they say when and if they reply. In the meantime, exactly which Pioneer DJ equipment has the Echo loop feature please?

Sahul · Post by **Sahul** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:21 pm

Hello,

the effect is simply an infinite repeat BUT you can speed it up, slow it down and adjust various parameters,

With Elottonix XL you get the infinite loop, but you can't speed it up or slow it down, and we have no plans about implementing that feature in a near future, sorry.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:22 pm

Hmmmm...it's not s/w but it might be useful to you if you do any DJing. Lexicon released a little delay unit several years back that did exactly this kind of thing - Can't quite remember what it was called...wasn't it JamMan or something like it (released just after the Alex and Reflex - that era). A very capable delay and sample looping thingy that did some of the morphing FX as well. You don't tend to see many going 2nd hand, but they were cheap as chips at the time - much overlooked unfortunately. And of course it sounded typically Lexicon - lush.

S/w - isn't there a delay called Buffer Delay or something like that? That might be able to do the speedy-up/slowy-down thing?

Several other delays will allow you to apply an LFO to delay speed, such as e-phonic's RetroDelay and Ohmboyz...although it might not be quite what you're after. Ohmboyz has ramps as well as sine wave LFOs, but it will glitch a bit if you manually alter delay time while it's repeating - but it also has an easy sustain button to switch to instant 100% feedback (with a nice resonance available too).

mikehende · Post by **mikehende** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:33 pm

Jorge Ruiz wrote:Hello,
with Elottonix XL you get the infinite loop, but you can't speed it up or slow it down, and we have no plans about implementing that feature in a near future, sorry.

Can you get the infinite loop "on the fly"? Meaning, while playing a song in my DJ program can I infinitely loop ANY word without having to record that word first? Say I am playing the song "I got the power" and I wish to infinitey loop any of those words at any time so I can have it go "I got the power, power, power ,power e.t.c, is this possible?

mikehende · Post by **mikehende** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:37 pm

kritikon wrote:. Lexicon released a little delay unit several years back that did exactly this kind of thing - Can't quite remember what it was called...wasn't it JamMan or something .

Yes, I had bought this unit when it came out and I was dealing with Hardware, there is no other like that Jamman and is considered a classic today and vbery hard to come by but I only want to deal with "software" now which is why I am heading in this direction.

9b0 · Post by **9b0** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:41 pm

mikehende wrote:I wrote to the authors of Elotronix,let's see what they say when and if they reply. In the meantime, exactly which Pioneer DJ equipment has the Echo loop feature please?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--PNREFX500

This one. The REFX500. James Zabiela uses it a lot. He gets the tempo with the tap function and loops the signal by using the echo and sets the feedback to the maximum.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:43 pm

you could try Arc Dev's plugs. That guy has some really good delay units.

"Echo-Loop" effect in software?