BR - Sampler - Sample and Slice editing problems

[DarkStar]

To get to grips with the Sampler I was looking closely at a 1-bar sample with 4 16th notes, loaded in a Layer. And I ran into several things that make editing in the Sampler difficult.
[v1.3.0 does not have several of these problems]
Has anyone-else run into these issues?
Or can you confirm them?

Sample Start not displayed correctly
In the Start and End points pane:
- the Start waveform is not displayed correctly at some Zoom levels; in my case it looked like the Start(smp) pane was showing the waveform of the second note,
- when I click somewhere in the first note to set the Sample start point, it is not shown correctly in the Start (smp) pane, but it is OK if I click somewhere within the second note
- it looks like the zoom level affects where it goes wrong.
- there are similar problems when defining the looped section of the sample
- the "zero amplitude" line is not displayed in the upper (left?) audio channel;
- this all seems OK to me in v1.3.0

Slice Start position not displayed correctly
Next I inserted a second copy of the sample into a Slicer, and Auto-sliced it
- in the Slice Mapper, in the second pane that is labelled Start(smp) (which should be End(smp)) the slice is drawn with the correct end point
- but these panes suffer from the same display problems in the Start and End pane as described above

Start of first Slice not always at 0
Now, I tried different Slice thresholds:
at threshold = 38, I get 6 slices, but the first starts at position 25
at threshold 48, I get 4 slices, with the first starting at 25
at threshold 50, I get 4 slices, with the first starting at 614
at threshold 60 I get 2 slices, with the first starting at 22074
In each case, the section in front of the first slice is not accessible (but i can set the Start point to 0 to get to it).
[problems in v1.3.0 too]
Surely the first slice should always start at position 0, shouldn't it?

Slice end points shown wrongly
So I set the threshold to 60, auto-sliced and start of the first slice to 0,
- in the Slice Mapper, the Start position waveform is not drawn correctly, it seems to have the same problems as in the Start and End Points pane [OK in v1.3.0]
- in the Start and End points, the numeric value for the End point for the slices is not correct , all slices are shown and drawn with an End point of 88199 (this is the end of the sample) [this is a problem in v1.3.0 and earlier too]
- the slice is highlighted in the Slice Mapper sample but not in the Start and End Points sample pane [a problem in v1.3.0 too]
- in the Slice Mapper, if I click the start and end waveform Zoom out buttons [-] twice I can see the waveform, but it is clearly not the waveform of the slice - it looks like the second slice to me [this looks OK in v1.3.0]

Slice Mapper Start and End panes not correct
I then set the slice threshold to 56, and changed the start of the first slice from 614 to 0.
I selected the second slice and clicked in the two lower panes in the Slice Mapper to set the start and end points of the slice:
- the Slice Mapper sample pane is updated,
- but the 2 lower panes (the ones in which i clicked!) are not [this is OK in v1.3.0]
- the Start and End points pane is updated (but the end point shown there is still as 88199.

Slice Mapper not refreshed
Finally, I changed the Start position by clicking in the sample view in Start and End Point, but the Slice Mapper pane is not updated (until the window is refreshed. [Problem in v1.3.0 too]

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As far as I can tell the samples and loops and slices play correctly, but these issues make editing them to get what I am aiming for difficult.
Jørgen. I can email you screenshots of these problems and the sample itself if it would help.

[DarkStar]

So, 41 views and no replies (I always promised myself I would not write one of these "sniffs" )

Anyway,
- either, I have got it all wrong and no-one wants to tell me (unklikely)
- or, I have got a dodgy .exe file (also unlikely)
- or, no-one had the energy and dedication to read through the problems i described (quite possible)
- or, no-one has used these areas of the Sampler (quite possible, too).

All you eXT samplists, where are you when I need you?

I live in hope.

[sweet_trip]

sorry man, i've never even played with the sampler.
i'll give it a go

[Noox]

I use the sampler mostly to build drum kits, never to slice...

I've tried the very same things you've done and you'll be glad to learn that you're not alone. Everything is confirmed.

[DarkStar]

Thanks Noox.

Now, Jorgen ?

[DarkStar]

Still there in 12 August beta, I'm afraid

[tjvigil66]

Still there in 12 August beta, I'm afraid

I can confirm this BR.