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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:42 am

jamcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:09 amIn other words, Martin is hedging

Here's a bit more info. Choosing the appropriate license is tricky. Since we cannot open source and support/distribute VST2, VST3 requires GPL3. And Martin doesn't want to lose the MIDI output features of VST2 (for talking to the actual hardware JX8P and editing it etc.), which VST3 has royally screwed up.

Another possibility is simply to wait out and see how CLAP format pans out, since that will realistically allow open sourcing under a non-GPL license yet still be able to provide VST2, VST3, AU etc. through various wrappers.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:23 am

Thanks for the update. I would suggest just doing VST3 plus a standalone version to talk directly to the JX-8P. Though it is my understanding that VST3 supports sending sysex, just not MIDI CC. Either way you should be able to communicate directly through the system MIDI API.

My concern here from experience is that once your project gets in a holding pattern waiting on someone or something else, it tends to fizzle out and die.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:45 am

EvilDragon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:42 am Another possibility is simply to wait out and see how CLAP format pans out, since that will realistically allow open sourcing under a non-GPL license yet still be able to provide VST2, VST3, AU etc. through various wrappers.

I saw Schwa from the Reaper team has already been engaged with CLAP. So I hope Bitwig [which I don't use but we already know about] and Reaper will be early host adopters of the format. If Reaper got on board, I'd be good right there.

From that point, I'd love it this could be ported over as a CLAP plugin (with M1 support) and subsequently continued as a VST2. There's at least one cat I know who'd even like a crippled VST3 version because of "the future" or whatever.

So hopefully there's a future for this. I'm really rooting for CLAP as a format.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:04 am

Whichever project SST takes on, there will be a CLAP for it.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:04 am

jamcat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:23 amThough it is my understanding that VST3 supports sending sysex, just not MIDI CC.

DAW support for either is super spotty and it's just not worth it. At any rate, Martin has the final say.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:24 am

Hm, filter got drastically changed in versions after 2015. I totally prefer the old filter sound/adjustment. Is it possible that you add a "old variant" switch, so it sounds exactly like before?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:38 am

Probably not, because the way it sounds now is more accurate to how JX8P/MKS70 filter actually sounds.

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:41 am

Instead of complaining about dev's not updating their programs to fit your OS's maybe get the fuk off of OS's that continually break software? Or buy a 2nd CPU just for the constant need to upgrade? I was a big Mac guy for years, Snow Leopard was my Last OS with Apple.. Lesson learned. I no longer have that issue, with a single company destroying software that works in the name of selling a new OS.

PG-8X runs beautiful on Windows x64

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:10 am

trusampler wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:41 am Instead of complaining about dev's not updating their programs to fit your OS's maybe get the fuk off of OS's that continually break software? Or buy a 2nd CPU just for the constant need to upgrade? I was a big Mac guy for years, Snow Leopard was my Last OS with Apple.. Lesson learned. I no longer have that issue, with a single company destroying software that works in the name of selling a new OS.

PG-8X runs beautiful on Windows x64

Ahh! Until the end I thought you were going to say you use Linux!

SebAV · Post by **SebAV** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:35 pm

trusampler wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:41 am Instead of complaining about dev's not updating their programs to fit your OS's maybe get the fuk off of OS's that continually break software? Or buy a 2nd CPU just for the constant need to upgrade? I was a big Mac guy for years, Snow Leopard was my Last OS with Apple.. Lesson learned. I no longer have that issue, with a single company destroying software that works in the name of selling a new OS.

PG-8X runs beautiful on Windows x64

I agree with useless OS updates. However, hi-dpi / Retina graphics resolutions are really an appreciable needed feature. It’s good for your eyes and (with zoom) enforces the immersive experience.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:33 pm

Does anyone have a link to the factory sound bank sysex. Thanks.

Etienne1973 · Post by **Etienne1973** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:48 pm

cyberheater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:33 pmDoes anyone have a link to the factory sound bank sysex. Thanks.

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/pg-8x- ... /downloads

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:01 pm

what does CLAP stand for anyway?

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:01 pm

Etienne1973 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:48 pm
cyberheater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:33 pmDoes anyone have a link to the factory sound bank sysex. Thanks.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/pg-8x- ... /downloads

Thanks. I now have them.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:03 pm

I have tried without success to load the AU version of the plugin in Logic Pro X on Monterey (Mac).
Forced to use a AU to VST adapter.

It's got a lovely sound and sounds like hardware without the hiss.

PG-8X (2.0) released