JP6K 1.7 update (64 bit)

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nix808
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3703 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia

Post Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:18 pm

What about running the FL beta and trying the demo if you would like to be on Mac?
I'd love to try and do this, but the 2 Mac people/family I know won't let try it for fear of damaging their OSX. humph
I think you need to own FL to get the beta.

ObsoleteAcc99
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22486 posts since 5 Sep, 2001

Post Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:36 pm

actually i do have FL on mac installed as i own FL producer for what seems like a lifetime. I am very silly not to have thought of trying the JP6K demo that way, thank you! will do so today

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nix808
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3703 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia

Post Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:07 pm

hope it works,
& please let me know if it does,
coz Flowstone is my plug-making environment

adamtrance
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717 posts since 29 Sep, 2004

Post Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:53 pm

To answer the C++ question the story goes like this. I had no intention ever of programming synths, however since SynthMaker came with FL Studio for free, it was a fun little "gadget" So I started fooling around, and I realized I could do more with this than I thought, and when I wrote my little thesis on the SuperSaw it was the ideal tool to try to program it. Making a full synth from the oscillator was just a step away and voila, JP6K was born. However FL Synthmaker could only save plugins to FL version, so I bought the full Synthmaker to be able to export vsts to other hosts as well.

Hiring someone to port the code would be very hard because its not as simple as copy and paste. Maybe it will sound different, maybe the programmer wont be able to do graphical things which I have done, maybe it will use more cpu, and when I update the synth, I have to ask that person to update it for me again. So it sounds like a nightmare. Unfortunately I wont have time to learn c++ for 5 years to make mac and 64 bit, so lets hope SynthMaker (now Flowstone) will support those in the not too distant future.

Shy
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5168 posts since 27 Jun, 2004

Post Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:19 pm

TheoM wrote:
Shy wrote:Hah, the best is now better. Thanks.
Really, that good? And there is no way this can be Ported to mac is there? I think I remember it being a save as enviro?
Yes, everyone who had been claiming their synth has a supersaw-like feature, hardly got even a single part of it right. They never really did any in-depth research. Then Adam published his thesis which has vast and very surprising details about how the supersaw design really works and how the unique features, including limitations and necessities of the specific implementation in the JP-8000 and JP-8080 effect the sound. Then, he actually built it in Synthmaker (having used it, I can't even begin to think about this huge task), finally an accurate, not to mention really good sounding supersaw implementation in a plugin. Finally, a synth that actually honors the original idea instead of tarnishing its name, causing plugin users to associate "supersaw" with bad jokes like Superwave. The filter is not much like the JP filter, but it's definitely usable, but the oscillator part just sounds pretty much indistinguishable from a JP-8000/JP-8080.

Hopefully soon Flowstone will enable OS X builds.
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suecae_sounds
KVRian
588 posts since 12 Jul, 2007 from Sweden

Post Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:52 am

It's nice to see 1.5 is out. JP6K is indeed one of the better super-saw-synths out there. :)

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DrGonzo
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2153 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest

Post Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:59 am

adamtrance wrote:lets hope SynthMaker (now Flowstone) will support those in the not too distant future.
Hey Adam - Carl here! You still in Budapest or you're back in Stockholm?

The thing about SynthMaker/Flowstone is that I highly doubt there will be an OSX version. When I bought the original Synthmaker about when it was released, the developer estimated a Mac version within a year. That's about six years ago... so, no. I doubt he will go there.

Unfortunately, I should add.

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izonin
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1176 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Post Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:09 am

How much is the CPU improved in 1.5?

Adam, it would be great if you could model the JP-8000 filters too.

faun2500
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1348 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk

Post Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:48 am

faun2500 wrote:New hard trance track made with only one synth - JP6K!! :) All sounds (except drums) come from this.

http://soundcloud.com/100mg/100mg-jp6k-clip
Thanks for all the listens on this. I will be removing it soon so anyone else interested in downloading it please do so now. :D


http://soundcloud.com/100mg/100mg-jp6k-clip
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ranger3
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619 posts since 28 Nov, 2006

Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:37 am

Am I right in thinking the JP update, regarding the new patches, they are FX patches only, no new bass/leads ?


Cheers.

adamtrance
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717 posts since 29 Sep, 2004

Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:13 am

DrGonzo wrote:
Hey Adam - Carl here! You still in Budapest or you're back in Stockholm?

The thing about SynthMaker/Flowstone is that I highly doubt there will be an OSX version. When I bought the original Synthmaker about when it was released, the developer estimated a Mac version within a year. That's about six years ago... so, no. I doubt he will go there.

Unfortunately, I should add.

/C
Hey! Yeah still in Budapest :)
Unfortunately I would not expect a mac version any time soon either. I think 64 bit is the one they are planning first?

izonin wrote:How much is the CPU improved in 1.5?

Adam, it would be great if you could model the JP-8000 filters too.
Its very hard to estimate, but I would say at least 30-40% reduction in cpu usage.

ranger3 wrote:Am I right in thinking the JP update, regarding the new patches, they are FX patches only, no new bass/leads ?


Cheers.
These are the new patches I added in 1.5:

BASS - Bendy
BASS - Evil
BASS - League
FX - Dishwasher
FX - Hell-O
FX - Psychic
FX - Space Marine
LEAD - Arcade
PAD - Classic
PAD - Gated Dreams
PLUCK - Bugs
PLUCK - Cactus
PLUCK - Nordish

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EvilDragon
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17696 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:43 am

Demo is not v1.5 yet, right?

adamtrance
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Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:59 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Demo is not v1.5 yet, right?
The demo is indeed version 1.5 :)

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EvilDragon
KVRAF
17696 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:20 pm

Ah, thanks. It wasn't a week ago, or so. :D

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nix808
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3703 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia

Post Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:25 pm

Thanks for the update-
do you want a polyphonic porta cludge?
It works and will take 30 min to integrate IMO.

Yo Theo, did you try running this on Mac?
Cheers

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