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Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:14 pm

Ned Bouhalassa wrote:I take it that there's no demo version?

I take it you have not read all posts here in this thread and the Waldorf website too

look here: http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/ppg-3-evaluation.html

or here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

Sholla · Post by **Sholla** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:04 pm

I envy Germans. All good stuff comes from there. We have to wait and hope PPG hits US stores before New Year.

Ned Bouhalassa · Post by **Ned Bouhalassa** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:21 pm

Ingonator wrote:
Ned Bouhalassa wrote:I take it that there's no demo version?
I take it you have not read all posts here in this thread and the Waldorf website too

I take it you are correct. I take it that you are thinking that I'm now downloading it, and will LOVE it. I take it you are right about that too!

dhalfen · Post by **dhalfen** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:36 pm

^^^ Allow me to use my extraordinary psychic powers:

You HAVE downloaded it, and you ARE loving it!

Yes, yes, yesssssss.....

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:15 pm

Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Ned Bouhalassa wrote:I take it that there's no demo version?
I take it you have not read all posts here in this thread and the Waldorf website too
I take it you are correct. I take it that you are thinking that I'm now downloading it, and will LOVE it. I take it you are right about that too!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:51 pm

just tried the demo for fun, and everytime on my mac it says installation failed at the end. I updated latest sync soft elicenser, successfully downloaded the demo activation code, and the synth even appears to work in logic, but, i was just wondering if anyone got that error trying to install the mac version.

p.s. i think this is sounding very tinny so far? Am i the only one?

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:56 pm

Yeh, there was a fix for that but don't remember now what it was .. I think somebody will chime in!

To me it doesn't sound tinny, maybe a bit old / muffled but in a goody analog way. I just dig the sound, maybe it's not for you ttoz

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:01 pm

penguinfromdeep wrote:
To me it doesn't sound tinny, maybe a bit old / muffled but in a goody analog way.

ppg ...analogue?

Willx · Post by **Willx** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:04 pm

My recollection from threads I've read - about installing/running on the mac:
- "postflight" error or whatnot, during the install, fixed by installing latest elicenser. I got that error, installed the latest elicenser, then reinstalled the ppg and the install worked fine that time.
- crashes from the AU plugin, but the VST runs fine. I haven't tried the AU so I can't confirm/deny. And/or maybe it's been fixed in the current demo download? I don't know.

My question -- I haven't quite worked this out from what I've read: where do USA folks buy it? It looks like Waldorf online is selling only the upgrade, and of the links to other sites, it sounds like they're all in europe and/or don't actually have it in stock yet?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:17 pm

I did that WillX but no dice...

@ the analogue sound, well i'm flipping through a few presets, and i do feel the analogue vibe, but it's a weak one. I don't know how to explain it. It's got no guts. Gutless but analogue "sounding".

there.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:23 pm

ttoz wrote:I did that WillX but no dice...

@ the analogue sound, well i'm flipping through a few presets, and i do feel the analogue vibe, but it's a weak one. I don't know how to explain it. It's got no guts. Gutless but analogue "sounding".

there.

Have you tried the Filter Drive/Tube Drive? Some sound designers are afraid to add too much distortion since some customers could be afraid about clipping...
If the PPG filter is weak than my ears must be broken.

BTW the filter drive is the "secret weapon" in all Waldorf synths like Largo, Blofeld or PPG Wave 3.V. On the other hand the PPg was not invented to emulate a Jupiter 8 or Minimoog.

I don't know if the demo contains all my factory sounds. Some of those are based on samples from AAS Tassman 4 including some approaches for the hypersaw/supersaw sounds (based on my "HyperOSC" synths for Tassman).

Xenos · Post by **Xenos** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:25 pm

I definitely lucked out: http://www.waldorfmusic-shop.de/epages/ ... D=19270228

The full price scared me a bit, but thankfully there is an upgrade option for 2.V owners.

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:33 pm

Kriminal wrote:
penguinfromdeep wrote:
To me it doesn't sound tinny, maybe a bit old / muffled but in a goody analog way.
ppg ...analogue?

Yes, all hardware has an analogue output (still)
And we may presume they allso emulated that

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:45 pm

Well, the filter is analogue for starters .. And I think this time they indeed emulated more stuff than in the first version, who knows, but to my ears it just sounds miles better than their first effort emulating PPG. The sound is not necessarily in-your-face trancey thing like Sylenth can do (though Ingo's patches have some pretty cool supersaws etc) but more like a wooly vintage thing .. Might not be your cup of tea if you like ebm or whatever though it can do some pretty nasty sounds too

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:05 pm

olepro wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
penguinfromdeep wrote:
To me it doesn't sound tinny, maybe a bit old / muffled but in a goody analog way.
ppg ...analogue?
Yes, all hardware has an analogue output (still)
And we may presume they allso emulated that

i was thinknig of the sound...ppg's sound very digital to me, and thats not to say its a bad thing (before you lynch me), just that its the nature of its sound...IMO

Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V available at shops now