While i needed a break from all the new tools i bought (yeah G.A.S.) i played again a bit with Dune 2 and i really like what (sometimes weird) sounds i get from just one of the 3 OP FM OSC and some modulations.
5 single patches (O.k. one patch use 2 OSC).
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/d ... odulations
DUNE 2 is out now!!
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- KVRAF
- 2491 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Cinebient wrote:While i needed a break from all the new tools i bought (yeah G.A.S.) i played again a bit with Dune 2 and i really like what (sometimes weird) sounds i get from just one of the 3 OP FM OSC and some modulations.
5 single patches (O.k. one patch use 2 OSC).
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/d ... odulations
These sound amaaaazing!! Care to share the patches if you dont mind?
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Sure. I´m not at my computer yet but i could share them tomorrow after work if you like.surreal wrote:Cinebient wrote:While i needed a break from all the new tools i bought (yeah G.A.S.) i played again a bit with Dune 2 and i really like what (sometimes weird) sounds i get from just one of the 3 OP FM OSC and some modulations.
5 single patches (O.k. one patch use 2 OSC).
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/d ... odulations
These sound amaaaazing!! Care to share the patches if you dont mind?
They are "raw" patches but you can tweak from there
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Good stuff!
On a side note, I recently tagged all my Dune 2 patches with VIP and used that in two tracks. I need to admit that Dune 2 has better presets than Sylenth.
On a side note, I recently tagged all my Dune 2 patches with VIP and used that in two tracks. I need to admit that Dune 2 has better presets than Sylenth.
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Thank´s.
Here is another one i will put into a mini set. Also FM but 3 layers this time.
Still just one patch and you just hear 1-3 voices at a time which just evolve trough modulation and slowly open and close the modwheel.
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/d ... oundscapes
A last one for today: Again a kind of gated (when Modwheel open) FM Pad:
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/dune-2-fm-pads
Here is another one i will put into a mini set. Also FM but 3 layers this time.
Still just one patch and you just hear 1-3 voices at a time which just evolve trough modulation and slowly open and close the modwheel.
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/d ... oundscapes
A last one for today: Again a kind of gated (when Modwheel open) FM Pad:
https://soundcloud.com/user-790535032/dune-2-fm-pads
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
As i said....here is a mini set of 10 (more or less raw) presets which focus on the FM stuff from Dune 2.
But some presets might even sound more interesting if you just change OSC to waveforms or wavetables and tweak them to your own. Let me know if that link not work or there are other questions or problems about the presets. Have a nice day:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sy7z8obpg0vyz ... f.zip?dl=0
But some presets might even sound more interesting if you just change OSC to waveforms or wavetables and tweak them to your own. Let me know if that link not work or there are other questions or problems about the presets. Have a nice day:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sy7z8obpg0vyz ... f.zip?dl=0
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- KVRAF
- 2491 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Thank you very much CinebientCinebient wrote:As i said....here is a mini set of 10 (more or less raw) presets which focus on the FM stuff from Dune 2.
But some presets might even sound more interesting if you just change OSC to waveforms or wavetables and tweak them to your own. Let me know if that link not work or there are other questions or problems about the presets. Have a nice day:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sy7z8obpg0vyz ... f.zip?dl=0
Greatly appreciated!
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia
Ok, I have put some time and effort into exploring the oscillators in DUNE 2 and I have to say that, while the saw OSC is pretty damn decent and sounds good to my ears, the pulse one is pretty bad for my taste (sorry if this sounds negative to some people, but I believe in euphemisms only when speaking to children (and even then it is to some degree, not all the way)).
It produces a sort of very audible "click" and "thunk" (for lack of better term), depending on the note being played and for me it's unusable.
The best sounding pulse oscillators (at least for me) are the ones that produce the signal that actually looks like a square (no ramps, drops, spikes etc).
So, implementing a decent pulse OSC would be one of my priorities, if I were developing DUNE (3). DUNE 1 had a decent pulse OSC, IIRC (have de-installed DUNE 1 long ago, so I can't really check, and I don't wanna re-install it, since everything else, especially the filters, is better in v2).
To correct this, i fired up Sound Forge and made a wavetable with basic shapes (including 32 pulse shapes with various width). It took some time and effort to "tune" each sample, so that it doesn't introduce DC offset when used with heavy unison. To my ears it sounds pretty good and much better than the VA pulse OSC (you can find it coupled with the small bank I made previously).
So, again, my suggestions for DUNE 3:
-Proper dials with decimal values and proper units (Hz for filters, dB for volumes, miliseconds/seconds for envelopes etc) and the ability to input the values via keyboard;
-Graphical ADSR envelopes (a la Serum, FM8, Cytrus etc), without removing the MSEGs, of course;
-That thing with 16 voices where each voice is a synth voice with its own panning, tuning etc (not a layer!), that I've mentioned previously, would also be very nice, and of course ...
-A new pulse OSC.
Cheers!
It produces a sort of very audible "click" and "thunk" (for lack of better term), depending on the note being played and for me it's unusable.
The best sounding pulse oscillators (at least for me) are the ones that produce the signal that actually looks like a square (no ramps, drops, spikes etc).
So, implementing a decent pulse OSC would be one of my priorities, if I were developing DUNE (3). DUNE 1 had a decent pulse OSC, IIRC (have de-installed DUNE 1 long ago, so I can't really check, and I don't wanna re-install it, since everything else, especially the filters, is better in v2).
To correct this, i fired up Sound Forge and made a wavetable with basic shapes (including 32 pulse shapes with various width). It took some time and effort to "tune" each sample, so that it doesn't introduce DC offset when used with heavy unison. To my ears it sounds pretty good and much better than the VA pulse OSC (you can find it coupled with the small bank I made previously).
So, again, my suggestions for DUNE 3:
-Proper dials with decimal values and proper units (Hz for filters, dB for volumes, miliseconds/seconds for envelopes etc) and the ability to input the values via keyboard;
-Graphical ADSR envelopes (a la Serum, FM8, Cytrus etc), without removing the MSEGs, of course;
-That thing with 16 voices where each voice is a synth voice with its own panning, tuning etc (not a layer!), that I've mentioned previously, would also be very nice, and of course ...
-A new pulse OSC.
Cheers!
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
It´s easy to do with a wavetable. But i have no problem with the pulse, more with the limited pulse width setting. But that could also be "faked" via a wavetable.Ghost Dog wrote:Ok, I have put some time and effort into exploring the oscillators in DUNE 2 and I have to say that, while the saw OSC is pretty damn decent and sounds good to my ears, the pulse one is pretty bad for my taste (sorry if this sounds negative to some people, but I believe in euphemisms only when speaking to children (and even then it is to some degree, not all the way)).
It produces a sort of very audible "click" and "thunk" (for lack of better term), depending on the note being played and for me it's unusable.
The best sounding pulse oscillators (at least for me) are the ones that produce the signal that actually looks like a square (no ramps, drops, spikes etc).
So, implementing a decent pulse OSC would be one of my priorities, if I were developing DUNE (3). DUNE 1 had a decent pulse OSC, IIRC (have de-installed DUNE 1 long ago, so I can't really check, and I don't wanna re-install it, since everything else, especially the filters, is better in v2).
To correct this, i fired up Sound Forge and made a wavetable with basic shapes (including 32 pulse shapes with various width). It took some time and effort to "tune" each sample, so that it doesn't introduce DC offset when used with heavy unison. To my ears it sounds pretty good and much better than the VA pulse OSC (you can find it coupled with the small bank I made previously).
So, again, my suggestions for DUNE 3:
-Proper dials with decimal values and proper units (Hz for filters, dB for volumes, miliseconds/seconds for envelopes etc) and the ability to input the values via keyboard;
-Graphical ADSR envelopes (a la Serum, FM8, Cytrus etc), without removing the MSEGs, of course;
-That thing with 16 voices where each voice is a synth voice with its own panning, tuning etc (not a layer!), that I've mentioned previously, would also be very nice, and of course ...
-A new pulse OSC.
Cheers!
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- KVRAF
- 35439 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I dunno, but, Kevin Schroeder, who did a lot of sounds for Dune 1 and 2 wrote on Youtube that it might (yes, might) be out this summer. As we all know how programming works (or do we?), i guess it'll be out at the end of the year then.Ghost Dog wrote:Any news abut DUNE 3?
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- KVRist
- 457 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia
Probably something like that.chk071 wrote:I dunno, but, Kevin Schroeder, who did a lot of sounds for Dune 1 and 2 wrote on Youtube that it might (yes, might) be out this summer. As we all know how programming works (or do we?), i guess it'll be out at the end of the year then.Ghost Dog wrote:Any news abut DUNE 3?
I'm kinda bummed when it comes to my two favourite soft synths: one of them (that would be Sylenth1) is kinda limited in terms of options and not that well optimized in terms of CPU usage (at least compared to the other one), and the other one (DUNE), has an interface that is somewhat idiosyncratic in some regards, and is developed by people who are, while being pretty capable in terms of developing the actual software code, pretty obtuse when it comes to public relations (at least that was my experience with them).
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- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
Who knows when it will be out, you'll prob hear about it on gearslutz firstchk071 wrote:I dunno, but, Kevin Schroeder, who did a lot of sounds for Dune 1 and 2 wrote on Youtube that it might (yes, might) be out this summer. As we all know how programming works (or do we?), i guess it'll be out at the end of the year then.Ghost Dog wrote:Any news abut DUNE 3?
