Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

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KVRAF
4740 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:38 am

Can you post link to guitar module in action?

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msvs
KVRian
1253 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:24 am

yes, when its in a state to show

ilalin
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Post Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:16 am

another one from me to celebrate the retro 80's and synthwave expansions

https://soundcloud.com/lullngore/summer-rain
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MasterTuner
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:51 am

ilalin wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:16 am
another one from me to celebrate the retro 80's and synthwave expansions
https://soundcloud.com/lullngor/summer-rain
It was good bro. Nice bass line etc.

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KVRAF
2160 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land

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Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:07 pm

Hey Manuel, is the multiband limiter inside of VPS Avenger unique to Avenger, or is it modelled after one of your plugins from the VPS Mastering Suite?
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Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:00 pm

yes its a strong stripped down version of our VMS - Multiband Compressor

5Lives
KVRian
518 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City

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Post Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:55 pm

Did the CPU usage get worse in 1.4? Maybe it has always been like this but the Lead Piano patch in the default library causes a ton of CPU spikes and clicks in Logic and Studio One at 64 and 128 buffer settings (with nothing else playing). I have a very powerful iMac so this shouldn’t be happening.

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KVRAF
2160 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land

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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:57 am

msvs wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:00 pm
yes its a strong stripped down version of our VMS - Multiband Compressor
That was my guess but I wasn't completely sure. That thing is like a sprinkle of MSG for sound design. Awesome!
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KVRian
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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:19 am

5Lives wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:55 pm
Did the CPU usage get worse in 1.4? Maybe it has always been like this but the Lead Piano patch in the default library causes a ton of CPU spikes and clicks in Logic and Studio One at 64 and 128 buffer settings (with nothing else playing). I have a very powerful iMac so this shouldn’t be happening.
not that I know about.
btw quite small buffer sizes. I have 512 and its still perfect playable. You should at least do 256

NeoKortex88
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11 posts since 3 Dec, 2018

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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:21 am

Hey,

i am new to music production and i bought the fabfilter bundle, Avenger and Falcon.

Here are a few questions i have:

1.) how strong are the advenger fx. Say i put reverb on the end of my chain. Would it make more sense to use FabFilter plugin outside on the track?

2.) is there a new GUI to Advenger? I really like the standard one but i just wonder...

3.) Does anyone here use Falcon and does it make sense for me to first dig deep into Avenger
and then learn Falcon afterwards?

Best Regards

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KVRAF
6779 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:29 am

msvs wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:19 am
5Lives wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:55 pm
Did the CPU usage get worse in 1.4? Maybe it has always been like this but the Lead Piano patch in the default library causes a ton of CPU spikes and clicks in Logic and Studio One at 64 and 128 buffer settings (with nothing else playing). I have a very powerful iMac so this shouldn’t be happening.
not that I know about.
btw quite small buffer sizes. I have 512 and its still perfect playable. You should at least do 256
You play at 512?
I could never... would have to quantize like crazy.
My system of maybe 6 years ago I did 256 and had to quantize.
Now I use 64 (maybe 128 I might be able to get awaywith) is what I use and I rarely have to quantize unless it is loops or somethings that have to be time synced.
rsp
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KVRian
1253 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:44 am

Yes all live videos are played at 512.
You always have to quantize (human inaccuracy) if you want it exactly. But its just pressing "Q" in Cubase. It does not matter if I press Q when played at 64, or if I press Q when played in 512. But 512 gives me so much more CPU power. Once you have your Midis played, it does not matter any more however. T

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KVRAF
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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:49 am

Even with Asio Guard? Interesting....... I think that was part of the purpose of Asio Guard. see I don't like to quantize..... unless I have to.
I love the human inaccuracy. But I don't really do dance music.
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KVRian
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Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:01 am

But I don't really do dance music.

That seems the difference ;)

But even for Hollywood stuff, I quantize first, then apply humanize. This is more controllable.

metaside
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19 posts since 11 Oct, 2012

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

Post Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:11 am

NeoKortex88 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:21 am
Hey,

i am new to music production and i bought the fabfilter bundle, Avenger and Falcon.

Here are a few questions i have:

1.) how strong are the advenger fx. Say i put reverb on the end of my chain. Would it make more sense to use FabFilter plugin outside on the track?

2.) is there a new GUI to Advenger? I really like the standard one but i just wonder...

3.) Does anyone here use Falcon and does it make sense for me to first dig deep into Avenger
and then learn Falcon afterwards?

Best Regards
1) Good in general, all usable and some really cool. The reverbs specifically are pretty good for a synth, but both Pro-R and the Falcon reverbs are hard competitors. Especially Pro-R is a completely different beast imho.
2) There are two additional GUIs, I use one of these all the time.
3) Hard to say, both are a bit different but cover a lot of similar ground with regard to possibilities and I wouldn't say that you need both if you are mostly interested in making your own patches. I am still using both. Falcon is more complex and is especially good for some of the granular oscillators, MPE integration and patches that need a lot of FX or extensive layering and scripting. Avenger is also very capable, but more limited in direct comparison and less flexible with regard to the architecture. However, it is a bit more streamlined for a fast workflow, Falcon might feel a bit more clunky, but that also depends on personal taste and methods. (Also, both synths are not very capable with regard to wavetable synthesis imho, in case you are looking for something in that regard.)

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