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SoundHunterrr
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58 posts since 24 Aug, 2020

Post Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:03 am

sircuit wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:14 am
Right click - to see the actual value. You can also copy it. Rapid is a synth that does not accentuates the use & display of numbers - kind of lets you going with your gut. Some people like it, some not. Imho this way gets faster results (the OCD in many people is pushing them/us to either type in values or adjust the knob until the value is round - and that’s not a “rapid” approach [pun intended])
Rapid make it more "trust your ears" not the numbers sort of thing? I like it in way, but maybe difficult for follow some tutorials when they use numbers for beginner like me :D

Jonas Harmon Lane
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37 posts since 29 Aug, 2020

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:25 am

There is a lot to love about Rapid.
But I think the complete exclusion of a midi out on what at first glance appears to be a multi timbre instrument confuses me.
If I work hard on a midi Arp line which the Synth encourages and I achieve a good result I cannot export that Arp.
I am not liking the bandpass filters at all, without decent bandpass gritty acid lines will never cut it.
The flanger and phaser seem to output a high pitch whining noise I find obnoxious.

Mik_lo
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69 posts since 6 May, 2017

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:42 am

Something about the modulation effects that I don't get on with. I can't seem to make the chorus not sound like a comb filter. I think they need more controls personally.

Jonas Harmon Lane
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37 posts since 29 Aug, 2020

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:52 am

Mik_lo wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:42 am
Something about the modulation effects that I don't get on with. I can't seem to make the chorus not sound like a comb filter. I think they need more controls personally.
The chorus is another insert effect that needs a bit of love and care.
Ruta Sound have done an outstanding job on nearly everything bar:
Bandpass Filters
Phaser
Flanger.

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Teksonik
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14161 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:24 am

Jonas Harmon Lane wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:25 am
without decent bandpass gritty acid lines will never cut it.
You mean acid lines like the TB303 ?
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Jonas Harmon Lane
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37 posts since 29 Aug, 2020

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:37 am

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:24 am


You mean acid lines like the TB303 ?
As much as I love the TB303 with its basic filter I mean more like the bandpass in Dune3.
It has clarity, grit and yet retains everything I like in a good bandpass filter.

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Teksonik
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14161 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:50 am

The TB303 uses a Low Pass Filter for its classic Acid sound. Dune 3 also has a dedicated Acid Low Pass.
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Jonas Harmon Lane
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:50 am
The TB303 uses a Low Pass Filter for its classic Acid sound. Dune 3 also has a dedicated Acid Low Pass.
But I am talking about the limitations of Rapids bandpass, any mention of acid and some naturally assume a 303.
Anyway anyone that is remotely into Psy should know what I mean about Bandpass Filters.
You should download a free demo of Dune3 from the Synapse web site, test it with a wide range of settings and then come back to Rapids Bandpass Filter.
If you followed my instructions carefully you are in for a bit of a shock.

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zvenx
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8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:13 pm

lol..
oh such Irony. Teksonik beta tests for Synapse Audio.
I am going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that he is very familiar with Dune 3.
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Teksonik
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14161 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:16 pm

Jonas Harmon Lane wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 pm
But I am talking about the limitations of Rapids bandpass, any mention of acid and some naturally assume a 303.
Name the synth that is mainly responsible for the "Acid Sound'.
Jonas Harmon Lane wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 pm
You should download a free demo of Dune3
I've owned Dune from version 1 all the way to Dune 3 and have done hundreds of patches for it.

I don't ask Rapid to do Acid sounds since I have other synths for that. I'm asking it to do more complex layered sounds and it does those with brilliance. :wink:
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Jonas Harmon Lane
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Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:21 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:16 pm
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I've owned Dune from version 1 all the way to Dune 3 and have done hundreds of patches for it.

I don't ask Rapid to do Acid sounds since I have other synths for that. I'm asking it to do more complex layered sounds and it does those with brilliance. :wink:
You are lucky to own both then. I don't have that luxery.
I am glad that at least you will concede that Rapids bandpass aren't up to snuff.

recursive one
KVRAF
5006 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:12 pm

Jonas Harmon Lane wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:06 pm

Anyway anyone that is remotely into Psy should know what I mean about Bandpass Filters.
You should download a free demo of Dune3 from the Synapse web site, test it with a wide range of settings and then come back to Rapids Bandpass Filter.
This! I'm not that remotely into psy, and i absolutely agree, Rapids bandpass filters aren't really good for the typical psy acid/squelch patches, Dune's BP filters are much better for that.

I also agree about the modulation effects, they don't hold up to the quality of the other effects.

Other than that, Rapid is a really great synth and I use it a lot, especially for various morphing and evolving wavetable sounds.
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clipnotic
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508 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:29 pm

I have Dune 3 and Rapid and both are some of my favorite synths and I also make Acid stuff sometimes and Rapid can create great Acid sounds with its analog filter!
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pizzatime
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51 posts since 4 May, 2020

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:52 pm

I agree with this:
"Something about the modulation effects that I don't get on with. I can't seem to make the chorus not sound like a comb filter. I think they need more controls personally".

OK in small doses but the Chorus just doesn't sound good to me apart from as a special fx mixed in a bit.

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Teksonik
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14161 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:12 pm

Jonas Harmon Lane wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:21 pm
I am glad that at least you will concede that Rapids bandpass aren't up to snuff.
I'm not "conceding" anything. I simply said I don't ask Rapid to do Acid sounds. I don't have a problem with Rapid's Bandpass filters.
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