Roland Cloud

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Klinke1
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Post Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:21 am

i wrote mail:

Hi, please make a software R8 MKII Drum-machine for Cloud. ..Please. With all nuance and human features etc.. Thanks in advance.. :) ***
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Hi ***,
That was a great instrument--we'll add that to the request list.
- WonderEcho -

czsynth
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 am

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The "Summer of SYSTEM-8" update is live!
https://www.rolandcloud.com/home/news/s ... ure-update (https://www.rolandcloud.com/home/news/system-8-1-30-feature-update)
Improving on excellence
As you may already know, the Roland SYSTEM-8 is the result of over four decades of synthesizer development. Using the most powerful hardware synthesizer heart ever created by Roland, the SYSTEM-8 has three oscillators per voice, incredible multimode filtering, a myriad of modulation opportunities, and an array of Roland-quality effects. With the many unique oscillator and filter types available, it offers a sonic palette of almost limitless potential. This is why legendary artists the world over have already made the SYSTEM-8 part of their arsenals. The Roland SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer brings the powerful sound of this future classic to computer-based musicians and producers everywhere as part of the Roland Cloud membership!

For the "Summer of SYSTEM-8," we've improved on one of the most powerful software synthesizers on the market, the SYSTEM-8 software synthesizer. How? The answer is simple. Since the Roland Cloud SYSTEM-8 software synth is an exact duplicate of the hardware SYSTEM-8, we've adapted the all-new features from the latest 1.2 SYSTEM-8 hardware patch and applied them the Roland Cloud software version. The resultant software synthesizer went from powerful to unstoppable. Let's talk about what's new with this update...

2 new FM oscillators
For this update, the software SYSTEM-8 receives 2 new FM oscillators, each with 6 variations. This basically equates to having 12 new oscillators as part of the SYSTEM-8! The first variation has six FM waveforms produced by two sine-waves and the second variation has a combination of three sine-wave operations and two triangle wave oscillators.

5 new Filter variations
Roland Cloud has added 5 new filter options to the already expressive SYSTEM-8. These options now include the famous JUPITER-8 and JUNO-106 high and low pass filters. Ever wondered what an FM synth with a JUPITER-8 filter would be like? Now you can find out. There are two new formant filters that uncannily recreate the human voice. There's even a new harmonic filter that uses feedback to vary the overtone. The SYSTEM-8 is unparalleled in its versatility, going from glass to growl, or pluck to punch, with just a few knob tweaks.

Even better when paired with its hardware sibling
For synthesizer power-users, combining the Roland SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer with its hardware sibling is an unbeatable pairing! You’ll love being able to play and shape your sounds with a great-feeling, velocity-sensitive keyboard with dedicated physical controls for nearly every function. And the SYSTEM-8 hardware is also a high-quality, high-resolution USB audio/MIDI interface making live or setups clean and simple. If you perform live, you’ll appreciate being able to transfer your SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer patches to your hardware and take to the stage computer-free!

Unparalleled value
On its own, the SYSTEM-8 software synthesizer adds thousands of dollars of value to your studio. When you consider that you get the SYSTEM-8, the TR-808, the TR-909, the JUPITER-8, the JUNO-106 and many other world-class instruments for free with Roland Cloud’s no-risk, 30 day trial, it’s a no-brainer worth in the tens of thousands.

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Ingonator
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12018 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:05 am

czsynth wrote:The "Summer of SYSTEM-8" update is live!
https://www.rolandcloud.com/home/news/s ... ure-update
Improving on excellence
As you may already know, the Roland SYSTEM-8 is the result of over four decades of synthesizer development. Using the most powerful hardware synthesizer heart ever created by Roland, the SYSTEM-8 has three oscillators per voice, incredible multimode filtering, a myriad of modulation opportunities, and an array of Roland-quality effects. With the many unique oscillator and filter types available, it offers a sonic palette of almost limitless potential. This is why legendary artists the world over have already made the SYSTEM-8 part of their arsenals. The Roland SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer brings the powerful sound of this future classic to computer-based musicians and producers everywhere as part of the Roland Cloud membership!

For the "Summer of SYSTEM-8," we've improved on one of the most powerful software synthesizers on the market, the SYSTEM-8 software synthesizer. How? The answer is simple. Since the Roland Cloud SYSTEM-8 software synth is an exact duplicate of the hardware SYSTEM-8, we've adapted the all-new features from the latest 1.2 SYSTEM-8 hardware patch and applied them the Roland Cloud software version. The resultant software synthesizer went from powerful to unstoppable. Let's talk about what's new with this update...

2 new FM oscillators
For this update, the software SYSTEM-8 receives 2 new FM oscillators, each with 6 variations. This basically equates to having 12 new oscillators as part of the SYSTEM-8! The first variation has six FM waveforms produced by two sine-waves and the second variation has a combination of three sine-wave operations and two triangle wave oscillators.

5 new Filter variations
Roland Cloud has added 5 new filter options to the already expressive SYSTEM-8. These options now include the famous JUPITER-8 and JUNO-106 high and low pass filters. Ever wondered what an FM synth with a JUPITER-8 filter would be like? Now you can find out. There are two new formant filters that uncannily recreate the human voice. There's even a new harmonic filter that uses feedback to vary the overtone. The SYSTEM-8 is unparalleled in its versatility, going from glass to growl, or pluck to punch, with just a few knob tweaks.

Even better when paired with its hardware sibling
For synthesizer power-users, combining the Roland SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer with its hardware sibling is an unbeatable pairing! You’ll love being able to play and shape your sounds with a great-feeling, velocity-sensitive keyboard with dedicated physical controls for nearly every function. And the SYSTEM-8 hardware is also a high-quality, high-resolution USB audio/MIDI interface making live or setups clean and simple. If you perform live, you’ll appreciate being able to transfer your SYSTEM-8 Software Synthesizer patches to your hardware and take to the stage computer-free!

Unparalleled value
On its own, the SYSTEM-8 software synthesizer adds thousands of dollars of value to your studio. When you consider that you get the SYSTEM-8, the TR-808, the TR-909, the JUPITER-8, the JUNO-106 and many other world-class instruments for free with Roland Cloud’s no-risk, 30 day trial, it’s a no-brainer worth in the tens of thousands.
I just had a first look/listen at the new System-8 plugin update /i do not own the hgardware yet...) and the new filter and FM Osc additions indeed seem to be quite impressive.

Especially the new Jupiter-8 and Juno-106 filters are really great additions IMO.

I did not check the formant filter yet but will do that ASAP. At the moment am mostly interested in how far the new Jupiter-8 filter in System-8 could be an actual replacement for certain patches in the Jupiter-8 plugin.
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surreal
KVRian
1015 posts since 3 Dec, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:33 am

Has anyone got a permant licence for a synth after a years subscription?

teacue
KVRian
522 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:35 am

Roland provides 8 sound banks for the System 8 hardware:
https://aira.roland.com/soundlibrary/

The banks are in .s8p format and it is not possible to load them in the cloud version.
Does someone knows a way to convert these banks?
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
5735 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:07 am

teacue wrote:Roland provides 8 sound banks for the System 8 hardware:
https://aira.roland.com/soundlibrary/

The banks are in .s8p format and it is not possible to load them in the cloud version.
Does someone knows a way to convert these banks?
I converted the first four into a single bank for my own use, but honestly, don't know if I can distribute the bins as I'm not the copyright holder. If there's a license agreement saying otherwise, I'd be happy to share, but absent that, no dice. Maybe reach out to the Cloud Support email address and ask them if they can include them with the System-8.

teacue
KVRian
522 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:36 am

In the meantime I asked the Roland Cloud support if it would be legit to ask a user who has access to both the hardware and the cloud version to convert the banks and to share them through a music forum.
The answer was: "Sure"
I also asked if Roland could provide the banks in the system-8 cloud format.
The answer was: "I've added that to our request list."

I would say then that it is safe to share the banks :)
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Ingonator
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12018 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:09 pm

Ingonator wrote: I just had a first look/listen at the new System-8 plugin update /i do not own the hgardware yet...) and the new filter and FM Osc additions indeed seem to be quite impressive.

Especially the new Jupiter-8 and Juno-106 filters are really great additions IMO.

I did not check the formant filter yet but will do that ASAP. At the moment am mostly interested in how far the new Jupiter-8 filter in System-8 could be an actual replacement for certain patches in the Jupiter-8 plugin.
Just tried to replicate one of my Synth Brass patches for Roland Cloud Jupiter-8 in the updated System-8 plugin with the new Jupiter-8 filter and at least for that specific pathc indeed was able to nail it quit nicely.

Another test was to use the same patch in both plugins and then crank up the resonance to maximum. Again both could sound damn close with a little tweaking.
So far it looks like they indeed implemented the filter from their Jupiter-8 plugin in the latest System-8 plugin update.

Soon i'll try to further explore the other new System-8 features like Juno-106 filter, formant filters and FM Oscs. So far i had only checked those for a very short time.
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KVRAF
5735 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:20 pm

teacue wrote:In the meantime I asked the Roland Cloud support if it would be legit to ask a user who has access to both the hardware and the cloud version to convert the banks and to share them through a music forum.
The answer was: "Sure"
I also asked if Roland could provide the banks in the system-8 cloud format.
The answer was: "I've added that to our request list."

I would say then that it is safe to share the banks :)
Well, they are freely available so I'll take your word for it. If Roland sues me though, I'll be coming after you :hihi:

These are the first 4 of the banks, which I called the 808 Day patches since that's when they were released:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuqliaccjv3i2 ... s.bin?dl=0

I also created my own bank of original patches, which I've included here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i78n91ss3a5ve ... s.bin?dl=0

I previously shared my patches somewhere in this thread. No changes if you already downloaded them. Slowly creating new patches and working on another bank.

teacue
KVRian
522 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:57 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Well, they are freely available so I'll take your word for it. If Roland sues me though, I'll be coming after you :hihi:
Sure ;)
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: These are the first 4 of the banks, which I called the 808 Day patches since that's when they were released: ...
Thanks for your work :)
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Ingonator
KVRAF
12018 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:48 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
teacue wrote:In the meantime I asked the Roland Cloud support if it would be legit to ask a user who has access to both the hardware and the cloud version to convert the banks and to share them through a music forum.
The answer was: "Sure"
I also asked if Roland could provide the banks in the system-8 cloud format.
The answer was: "I've added that to our request list."

I would say then that it is safe to share the banks :)
Well, they are freely available so I'll take your word for it. If Roland sues me though, I'll be coming after you :hihi:

These are the first 4 of the banks, which I called the 808 Day patches since that's when they were released:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuqliaccjv3i2 ... s.bin?dl=0

I also created my own bank of original patches, which I've included here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i78n91ss3a5ve ... s.bin?dl=0

I previously shared my patches somewhere in this thread. No changes if you already downloaded them. Slowly creating new patches and working on another bank.
Many thanks for the patches. I'll try to check them ASAP. :tu:


I admit tat opposig to some other Roland Cloud synths like eg. Jupiter-8, D-50 and JV-1080 (+ the SRX ones) i had rarely used the System-8 plugin so far but with the latest update it's almost like a new synth for me.

After checking the new Jupiter-8 filter now i created a patch that combines the new FM Oscs and the Formant filters. With the latest update the System-8 plugin offers a lot of additional options for sound design and sound wise it is very nice too (especially with the new analog filter models...).

With the new filters it is easier to create some of the more "classic" analog style sounds while System-8 also offers options to create sounds not possible with the vintage analog synth emulations.
Ingo Weidner
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phoneyk
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Re: Roland Cloud

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:56 am

I tried some of the synths.

They sound great, but some of them are quite CPU hungry.

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fmr
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7808 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:05 am

phoneyk wrote:I tried some of the synths.

They sound great, but some of them are quite CPU hungry.
Basically all of them are much better now. If you think they are CPU hungry, you should have tried them like nine months ago :hihi:
Fernando (FMR)

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beely
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1592 posts since 6 Jul, 2013

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:44 am

phoneyk wrote:They sound great, but some of them are quite CPU hungry.
There's a CPU saving option in the menu, which helps (but does affect the sound somewhat).

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Ingonator
KVRAF
12018 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Re: Roland Cloud

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:23 am

fmr wrote:
phoneyk wrote:I tried some of the synths.

They sound great, but some of them are quite CPU hungry.
Basically all of them are much better now. If you think they are CPU hungry, you should have tried them like nine months ago :hihi:
I just played with a layer of 3 patches/instances i just created with the new System-8 plugin update (using the new features) and even without the CPU saving features so far this works without problems. With some of the previous more CPU heavy versions this would have been more or less impossible.
On the other hand my current notebook has a i7-7700HQ Quad Core CPU which is quite powerful. With my older PCs using a layer of 3 instances would be a bigger problem i guess.

Another way of saving CPU with the System-8 plugin (and other Roland plugins) is reducing the amount of voices if the full 8 voices are not needed.
The amount of CPU used is always that for the maximum amount of voices even if you currently only use one voice.
Ingo Weidner
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