just M1 and Wavestation vst - or should you get the complete Korg collection?
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 989 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
Hi,
I still strungle with my decission because of the crappy copy protection, but I really need M1 and Wavestation sounds. AndI guess the Korg emulations are the best and only ones.
I'm wondering if there is any reason to get the complete Korg collection instead of just these both M1 & Wavestation)?
For analog stuff I have Diva and Repro, so I'm not really needing another one. But are there some unique special sound with the Korg polisix or something? Any other reason I don't see to get the whole collection?
It's 50$ for the M1 +Wavestation v. 150$ for the complete collection at the moment (sale).
Could be 50$ vs. 100$ when I would have a 'M1 LE' serial from Korg that I got with my PadKontrol, but I don't find my serial number anymore. Not sure if you can get the 'M1 LE' for cheap here are the sales forum.
But anyhow. I like to have only stuff I need and not just gather. So the question remains the same.
I still strungle with my decission because of the crappy copy protection, but I really need M1 and Wavestation sounds. AndI guess the Korg emulations are the best and only ones.
I'm wondering if there is any reason to get the complete Korg collection instead of just these both M1 & Wavestation)?
For analog stuff I have Diva and Repro, so I'm not really needing another one. But are there some unique special sound with the Korg polisix or something? Any other reason I don't see to get the whole collection?
It's 50$ for the M1 +Wavestation v. 150$ for the complete collection at the moment (sale).
Could be 50$ vs. 100$ when I would have a 'M1 LE' serial from Korg that I got with my PadKontrol, but I don't find my serial number anymore. Not sure if you can get the 'M1 LE' for cheap here are the sales forum.
But anyhow. I like to have only stuff I need and not just gather. So the question remains the same.
- KVRAF
- 2475 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
I don't see much point in buying stuff you are not interested in or aren't going to use. The other sounds don't do that digital thing lik the M1 + WS, so if that's what you are after, get those... imo.
- KVRist
- 353 posts since 24 Dec, 2015
I had the same "dilemma". Like you I've got Diva and Repro and I wanted the Korg M1 and Wavestation especially. I saw the sale and bought both. $50. I don't like to buy synths that I know I'm not gonna use. The Odyssey looks good and all but damn I'm already covered with analog synths.
As you said, you don't need another analog emulations. You've already the best with Repro and Diva.
The Korg Polysix, Monopoly and MS-20 are like 15 years old VSTs and they do sound like 15 y.o analog emulations. Those Korg VA have their own "flavor", they are nice and CPU friendly (biggest advantage imo) but what you can create with them, you can create it with Diva and Repro and it just sounds way more accurate to an analog sound.
However M1 and Wavestation are more unique. Meaning that you'll not find VSTs that have the exact same features (especially the PCM samples and presets) as them. But they are 100% accurate emulations and having them for $50 it's just a steal imo. Well, I wasn't born when those synths came out but I can imagine how it feels when you see the price now when you bought a M1 full price back in the 90's lol.
As you said, you don't need another analog emulations. You've already the best with Repro and Diva.
The Korg Polysix, Monopoly and MS-20 are like 15 years old VSTs and they do sound like 15 y.o analog emulations. Those Korg VA have their own "flavor", they are nice and CPU friendly (biggest advantage imo) but what you can create with them, you can create it with Diva and Repro and it just sounds way more accurate to an analog sound.
However M1 and Wavestation are more unique. Meaning that you'll not find VSTs that have the exact same features (especially the PCM samples and presets) as them. But they are 100% accurate emulations and having them for $50 it's just a steal imo. Well, I wasn't born when those synths came out but I can imagine how it feels when you see the price now when you bought a M1 full price back in the 90's lol.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
The complete collection for me I love the Korg VA synths sound/filter of Polysix, MS-20 and Mono/Poly. They have 'clean', round and pleasant sound while ARP Odyssey is a great modern analogue emulation.
I bought M1/Wavestation after I bought all the others, but I'm glad I did. They have tons of great usable presets that can replace many individual libraries of acoustic and electronic instruments (good enough for me). So, after all it depends on our usage and taste
I bought M1/Wavestation after I bought all the others, but I'm glad I did. They have tons of great usable presets that can replace many individual libraries of acoustic and electronic instruments (good enough for me). So, after all it depends on our usage and taste
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 989 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
Very useful replys! I think I will just get the m1 and Wavestation at the moment, because it's this kind of iconic sound I want. I'm looking for the 90. rompler sounds for house music /detroid techno. But as always you ask yourself what you miss.
Too bad that you can't demo them. At least I don't see a way.
Too bad that you can't demo them. At least I don't see a way.
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- KVRAF
- 7755 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
The first part has some bad noodling by me.. (hehe) but you can hear some Wavestation sounds this way at least...and you can skip ahead in SoundCloud if you get bored.midi_transmission wrote:Very useful replys! I think I will just get the m1 and Wavestation at the moment, because it's this kind of iconic sound I want. I'm looking for the 90. rompler sounds for house music /detroid techno. But as always you ask yourself what you miss.
Too bad that you can't demo them. At least I don't see a way.
https://soundcloud.com/examigan/wavestation-demo
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 989 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
Thanks Examigan. Love to hear those sounds!
But I meant more the other ones in the Korg collection besides these too.
But I meant more the other ones in the Korg collection besides these too.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Doesn't the WS also have samples of real instruments? In other words, is it even necessary to get the M1 when you have the WS?
- KVRAF
- 2269 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Kork M1= great bread n butter sounds
Korg Wavestation= wavetable and vector synth, crazy cool
The OP already has Diva and Repro as mentioned in 1st post.
Korg Wavestation= wavetable and vector synth, crazy cool
The OP already has Diva and Repro as mentioned in 1st post.
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- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
M1 and WS even share some of the same samples.fluffy_little_something wrote:Doesn't the WS also have samples of real instruments? In other words, is it even necessary to get the M1 when you have the WS?
they can both layer up to 8 patches in a performance/combination
consisting of 4osc for WS and 2osc for M1
but the M1's effects setup has individual inserts per patch layer, WS does not,
making the M1 quite powerful in its sound sculpting
abilities.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
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generaldiomedes generaldiomedes https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=396947
- KVRian
- 674 posts since 15 Apr, 2017 from Canada
Full bucket also makes a pretty good free MonoPoly vst as well.
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- KVRian
- 716 posts since 23 Dec, 2011
I'm a huge fan of the M1 and Wavestation, and perhaps a little less of the MS-20 and Polysix instrumements. That is - except when they're layered or split in a patch. Legacy Cell allows layers / Splits for those two (MS-20 and Polysix), which brings them to life. I was pretty excited initially about the ARP Odyssey... but it fell short of my expectations, for real-time use.