Characterful wavetable synths?
- KVRAF
- 2255 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union
If consider as examples in meaning of "character" the some features that able to cause some "nonlinearities", i would say about PPG (Wolfgang) synths, or maybe really Largo (with its filters), or freeware SQ8L.
Though need note that often bigger impact influent to the peoples the visual factor ie UI design, rather than really character in sound (which also applies to me).
Though need note that often bigger impact influent to the peoples the visual factor ie UI design, rather than really character in sound (which also applies to me).
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- KVRAF
- 3477 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
It seems you already have it, but I like Serum for character purely as you can use the noise osc as a modulation source. Just a touch of it sent to anything (but especially pitch) can really dirty things up. Tons of noise flavours to choose from too.
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
In Largo you can use all 3 main Oscs and the also the Noise source to modulate the 3 main Oscs and the 2 filters to do FM and/or filter FM.cron wrote:It seems you already have it, but I like Serum for character purely as you can use the noise osc as a modulation source. Just a touch of it sent to anything (but especially pitch) can really dirty things up. Tons of noise flavours to choose from too.
The 3 Oscs and the filters have a "FM" drop-down menu to choose the FM sources.
In Synapse Audio DUNE 2 with the mod matrix the oscllators can more or less modulate anything so you could do some crazy audio rate modulation stuff there.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
I have Serum and use it a lot, actually I quite like it. It's possible to make some really interesting sounds, but they usually are nothing alike what I've actually tried to make That's indeed the difference between Serum and Virus TI, the latter always sounds cool but it has certain very strong sonic imprint, with Serum one can spend huge amount of time seraching for sweet spots but these sweet spots can be quite different in sound character.cron wrote:It seems you already have it, but I like Serum for character purely as you can use the noise osc as a modulation source. Just a touch of it sent to anything (but especially pitch) can really dirty things up. Tons of noise flavours to choose from too.
Anyway, it seems that I underestimated Rapid, I spent yesterday evening making some moving wavetable soundscapes, using various osc FXes and modulating various things, adding overdrive/distortion at various stages of signal path. It does sound really good, maybe not exactly like Virus but getting similar dark/gritty sound character is quite possible. I think I'll stick to Rapid as for now also having Largo and Nave in mind.
Btw, as we skeaking about wavetables and "character", here it an old trance track where the synths sound just bloody amazing to me. I don't know what exactly was used but I like sound character a lot, the synths sound sort of lo-fi but in a very pleasing way. E.g. the chord sound at 0:07, 0:26 and so on, how do you think what was used for this? Or the talking synths at 6:08 and 6:36? The track is from 2004 if this gives any clue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOFJjsHkDCg
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
How the chord is made is pretty hard to say off course.recursive one wrote: E.g. the chord sound at 0:07, 0:26 and so on, how do you think what was used for this? Or the talking synths at 6:08 and 6:36? The track is from 2004 if this gives any clue.
I for one am a huge fan of Decimort 2 if i want to give a sound the crunch of an old sampler.
The chord has characteristics of that lo-fi sound.
http://d16.pl/decimort2
It's called a bit crusher but don't compare it with your everyday bit crusher. For me it's excellent at giving sound a certain old school flavor (like a 12 bit sampler).
Talking synths are not that specific. You could make it in several ways.
My 2 cents.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Yeah, I know how to make various talking synths, I hoped someone would say "this sounds like a preset X from a synth Y" Not that I need these exact talking synths, just out of curiosity.
Thanks for the Decimort tip!
Btw, it's definitely possible to make various dark soundscapey things in Serum as well, just saw this ad
https://soundcloud.com/sampleoddity/sets/anomaly-demos
Though as usual with Serum, I'd say this sounds perhaps too clean/sterile. I'd propably add some saturation/light distortion to these sounds if I were to use them in my tracks.
Thanks for the Decimort tip!
Btw, it's definitely possible to make various dark soundscapey things in Serum as well, just saw this ad
https://soundcloud.com/sampleoddity/sets/anomaly-demos
Though as usual with Serum, I'd say this sounds perhaps too clean/sterile. I'd propably add some saturation/light distortion to these sounds if I were to use them in my tracks.
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
I think all wavetable synths have character based on how you can utilise the wavetables. I have many, but the best for me still is DUNE2. The only one where you can have 16 different concurrent wavetables afaik. There's some interesting additive stuff right there! I hope DUNE3 comes with more MSEGs specifically for that.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
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- KVRian
- 674 posts since 15 Apr, 2017 from Canada
Ableton Wavetable, without a doubt .. although that doesn't really help you much
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Well for 'juicy, analog modelled filters' it's hard to beat and it also has great wavetables and interface.generaldiomedes wrote:Ableton Wavetable, without a doubt .. although that doesn't really help you much