Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

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KVRAF
13218 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:50 pm

Ah_Dziz wrote:I use it often. It's just fine for laying out one shots and drums. Also there are plenty of third party libraries for it.
Just out of curiosity, how are 3rd party libraries for Battery 4 installed and are there any really great rock acoustic libraries out there?

shonky
KVRian
682 posts since 21 Nov, 2005

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:52 pm

After saying earlier in the thread that I'd use drum racks or Geist 2, started working on a kit in there this afternoon and found it really easy to use and got a good sound in no time. Think it might (slightly) have the edge on drum racks in terms of workflow but certainly Geist 2 beats it for modulation possibilities and sequencing (although given that Battery doesn't have a sequencer that's no great surprise).

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KVRAF
4764 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from New Zealand

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:35 pm

Battery 4 is still my favourite drums/percussion resource. I also like a lot Kong, ReDrum and drums kits in NX-XT in Reason and Groove Agent SE in Cubase (besides Transfuser and Strike), but I like Battery the most overall :)

There are enough acoustic kits in Battery 4 for me. They are few but do the job. The key is programming the beats, which is a very tough task if you are not a drummer (I'm not!).

There are solutions however to overcome this by using external help! I use 3rd party midi patterns/fills as my base or making my own beats (very robotic :hihi: ) and then use 'ReGroove Mixer' in Reason, for example, to apply the specific 'groove' feel which make a huge difference and 'near' professional results :clown:
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KVRian
1440 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:55 pm

I like it. I have it with komplete. I use it to trigger live drums/percs and other stuff. very easy to get something going fast.
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risome
KVRAF
1965 posts since 30 Oct, 2006 from Australia, NSW

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:19 pm

Mattt12345 wrote:Hey ho,

Because of a special offer i give Battery 4 a try. I do not understand why i should spend 100 bucks for an ,,outdated´´ Programm. I don´t find good Videos about Battery 4 or wow effect on working with it.

am i wrong? Did i miss something or is Battery out to date?
Your out of date because you don't know how to use the tools properly.
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KVRian
1090 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:34 pm

There’s too much overlap with Maschine to develop Battery further. And I wouldn’t be surprised if all the Battery developers are too busy working on Maschine. These days NI only make maintenance releases, I doubt there is a big future for Battery.
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KVRian
1118 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:38 pm

risome wrote:
Mattt12345 wrote:Hey ho,

Because of a special offer i give Battery 4 a try. I do not understand why i should spend 100 bucks for an ,,outdated´´ Programm. I don´t find good Videos about Battery 4 or wow effect on working with it.

am i wrong? Did i miss something or is Battery out to date?
Your out of date because you don't know how to use the tools properly.
What tools are you referring to? It's just a sampler that plays one shots that has effects and basic modulation.

Dont just assume he doesn't know what he's doing cause he doesn't like it.

Battery is ideal if you dont have something like drumrack or some sampler to trigger drums. It seems pointless using it if that's all it does. Like others have said, it has decent samples for all styles of music.

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KVRist
392 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:44 pm

Battery is good because it is boring, in a way. It's a low-stress pad sampler with decent mix effects per-sample. Quick to drop down a few samples, map to keys and tweak sounds a little. If something crazier is needed then it's easy to route to separate channels. It's about workflow rather than unique features.

Is it redundant for Ableton Live users? Maybe. In Reaper it's a lifesaver.

Mattt12345
KVRist
66 posts since 2 Feb, 2018

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:13 am

I thank everyone for your opinions and confirmations. I see as Maschine User no reason to go in deep with battery and use that offer from NI.

Have a nice weekend! :)

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KVRAF
4348 posts since 6 May, 2002

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:11 am

Battery 3 discontinued but better than B4
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KVRian
728 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from there

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:11 am

Battery 3 and 4 user here. 4 has few nice things over 3 but also has regressed:
1. Routing is now behind menu
2. Envelope is not shown on top of sample anymore WTF!?

redlester
KVRist
38 posts since 30 Jan, 2018

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:24 am

noiseboyuk wrote:In fact, that's another thing I've expected for years that has never arrived - Maschine Player. Have no interest in the hardware, but I'd find a software-only version interesting.
That's what I now have! I had Maschine, but when I got Push 2 I gave my Maschine hardware to my stepson who's original V1 Maschine was broken. I still have my license so can use the Maschine sounds without the hardware. An expensive way to arrive there though. :wink:

redlester
KVRist
38 posts since 30 Jan, 2018

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:31 am

Battery 4 is the only one I've ever had/used, and I really like the sounds from it. The biggest problem for me is that, as far as I can tell, it's not possible to automate the controls for any of the effects. That would be my main request for Battery 5.

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KVRist
55 posts since 31 Mar, 2014

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:09 am

Did they ever add back in the "in-kit preview" in Battery 4? I use that all the time in 3 and I remember it was missing in 4. (At least in early versions.)

shonky
KVRian
682 posts since 21 Nov, 2005

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:47 pm

Having started using Battery again, I've noticed some odd behaviour with it intermittently scanning for the user library on startup and once when it had already scanned it a few minutes earlier, with a notice from Microsoft Security asking if I wanted to report some files (think they were mostly Samples from Mars, they've been in the folder for ages without issue, and my copy of Battery is legit).

Anyone else experienced this?

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