The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

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KVRian
1345 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany

Post Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:37 pm

Bodhisan wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:38 pm
mladi wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:53 am
wagtunes wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:48 am
When hell freezes over we'll see another version of this synth.
:lol: So true.. sad but true.
Oh, I don’t know. Anything’s possible - but you read the same three posters pissing on the dev and the same three praising. It’s Groundhog Day here on KVR.
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KVRer
16 posts since 19 Dec, 2007 from brazil

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am

Hi there guys.

I was an early adopter of "The Mangle" over 5 years ago. Just wanted to ask if the latest version is 1.1, or people here were able to get a version after 1.1 from the dev? Just making sure I have the latest version, that´s all.

I found in my email the download links for the installers, that was the last time the dev replied to me after I asked about a latest version of the installers, and perhaps presets. But there were no presets.

Also, apart from wagtunes, no one else ever created preset packs for it? Turned google upside down already could not find anything, even wagtunes site don´t show up, I was only able to discover it by searching "sound guru the mangle" here on KVR forum.

Best Regards
BOOOOOM!!

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KVRAF
20408 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:33 am

gauer wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Hi there guys.

I was an early adopter of "The Mangle" over 5 years ago. Just wanted to ask if the latest version is 1.1, or people here were able to get a version after 1.1 from the dev? Just making sure I have the latest version, that´s all.

I found in my email the download links for the installers, that was the last time the dev replied to me after I asked about a latest version of the installers, and perhaps presets. But there were no presets.

Also, apart from wagtunes, no one else ever created preset packs for it? Turned google upside down already could not find anything, even wagtunes site don´t show up, I was only able to discover it by searching "sound guru the mangle" here on KVR forum.

Best Regards
I'm not surprised my site doesn't show up. The Mangle isn't exactly a big player in the VST world, which is a shame. This thing had so much potential. But Tom is MIA and, oh well, what can I say? Still, IMO, the best granular VST out there.

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KVRAF
32507 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:59 am

gauer wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Hi there guys.

I was an early adopter of "The Mangle" over 5 years ago. Just wanted to ask if the latest version is 1.1, or people here were able to get a version after 1.1 from the dev? Just making sure I have the latest version, that´s all.

I found in my email the download links for the installers, that was the last time the dev replied to me after I asked about a latest version of the installers, and perhaps presets. But there were no presets.

Also, apart from wagtunes, no one else ever created preset packs for it? Turned google upside down already could not find anything, even wagtunes site don´t show up, I was only able to discover it by searching "sound guru the mangle" here on KVR forum.

Best Regards
I never got a reply from him asking for the latest version so I'm still on the version before that which is annoying.

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KVRian
1157 posts since 31 Aug, 2007 from wales

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:11 am

my download links don't work
'No URL found for this tracker ID'
so no mangle

Dave

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KVRAF
20408 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:16 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:59 am
gauer wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Hi there guys.

I was an early adopter of "The Mangle" over 5 years ago. Just wanted to ask if the latest version is 1.1, or people here were able to get a version after 1.1 from the dev? Just making sure I have the latest version, that´s all.

I found in my email the download links for the installers, that was the last time the dev replied to me after I asked about a latest version of the installers, and perhaps presets. But there were no presets.

Also, apart from wagtunes, no one else ever created preset packs for it? Turned google upside down already could not find anything, even wagtunes site don´t show up, I was only able to discover it by searching "sound guru the mangle" here on KVR forum.

Best Regards
I never got a reply from him asking for the latest version so I'm still on the version before that which is annoying.
The latest version I have is 1.0. 1.1, from what I understand, is just some minor stuff. If you have 1.0 you should be fine.

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KVRAF
32507 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:40 am

Such a shame, The Tangle was also very promising. They were so ahead of their time with the vector based resizable interfaces.

KVRer
16 posts since 19 Dec, 2007 from brazil

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:08 am

He could pass on those projects to another programmer who is willing to keep upgrading the mangle and the tangle. Sell the code, give the code, whatever. He does not seem to care much about it so, just make it open source.


The latest version from the link he sent me is 1.1

But in sharing sites like audioz for example, it says version 1.1.1, I downloaded to compare it looks like the same thing...
BOOOOOM!!

KVRAF
1781 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:11 am

gauer wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:08 am
He could pass on those projects to another programmer who is willing to keep upgrading the mangle and the tangle. Sell the code, give the code, whatever. He does not seem to care much about it so, just make it open source.


The latest version from the link he sent me is 1.1

But in sharing sites like audioz for example, it says version 1.1.1, I downloaded to compare it looks like the same thing...
The latest I have here is 1.1.1 and it seems to in Catalina. I'm not sure if that is the latest official release version though.

KVRer
1 posts since 26 Aug, 2020

Post Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:50 am

Hey everyone, wondering if anybody has dealt with crashed validation with The Mangle on Logic Pro 10.5?

KVRist
230 posts since 12 Mar, 2005

Post Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:29 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:33 am
I'm not surprised my site doesn't show up. The Mangle isn't exactly a big player in the VST world, which is a shame. This thing had so much potential. But Tom is MIA and, oh well, what can I say? Still, IMO, the best granular VST out there.
For someone who is MIA, he's surprisngly easy to track down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjri_jPLyU8

FWIW I agree with you, it's one thing to get ill -- but he seems well enough to (at the very least) take the site down and stop selling a piece of unsupported software.

KVRian
631 posts since 3 May, 2018

Post Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 am

Tom (Dev of The Mangle) is a screw up -- he had one of the best granular software out there (still to this day in many regards) and blew it bigtime with his lack of pretty much everything following the release.

Had he stuck it out, supported it even somewhat, answered emails on occasion, and not pissed off the people who supported him (or hell just updated the page stating he's not supporting it)... he would have at least garnered a bit of respect and be one of the bigger players in the granular world, and likely the bank account to show for it.
Have you tried Vital?

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KVRAF
20408 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:32 am

Psuper wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 am
Tom (Dev of The Mangle) is a screw up -- he had one of the best granular software out there (still to this day in many regards) and blew it bigtime with his lack of pretty much everything following the release.

Had he stuck it out, supported it even somewhat, answered emails on occasion, and not pissed off the people who supported him (or hell just updated the page stating he's not supporting it)... he would have at least garnered a bit of respect and be one of the bigger players in the granular world, and likely the bank account to show for it.
TLDR - He's an idiot.

KVRian
631 posts since 3 May, 2018

Post Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:58 am

wagtunes wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:32 am
Psuper wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 am
Tom (Dev of The Mangle) is a screw up -- he had one of the best granular software out there (still to this day in many regards) and blew it bigtime with his lack of pretty much everything following the release.

Had he stuck it out, supported it even somewhat, answered emails on occasion, and not pissed off the people who supported him (or hell just updated the page stating he's not supporting it)... he would have at least garnered a bit of respect and be one of the bigger players in the granular world, and likely the bank account to show for it.
TLDR - He's an idiot.
He's no idiot, but he most definitely screwed up.
Have you tried Vital?

KVRist
230 posts since 12 Mar, 2005

Post Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am

Well. As per the video above he’s still out there doing audio programming and such

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