Yes, Kinetic Metal is a great example. $99 is stupidly overpriced, and I use and like the library. But, it comes with Komplete which is about $300 on sale and includes 45 products so without doing any other valuation gymnastics a simple per/product cost is $6.67.Echoes in the Attic wrote:I suspect any examples I give, like sample
Logic libraries or NI Evolve or Kinetic Metal etc, you will just say are a rip off.
Sure, if you want to compare Spectrasonics overpriced bloat with other firms overpriced bloat then, yes, you can pay too much for either.And that’s fine, but my point was just that the Omni library alone was better value than many other kontakt libraries. That was a single minor point and I’ve never changed the goal posts on that. The claim has always been the same but you keep talking about kontakt as a product in addition to any library for it. But then you’re talking about the cost of kontakt plus some libraries. Again it won’t take much to equal the cost of Omnisphere. However I fully agree the komplete or komplete ultimate are better deals, even at full price!
I have also never moved the goalposts here. My claim is that the Omni library isn't good value and I stand by that. Komplete and Komplete Ultimate represent good value. Small indie devs like Rhythmic Robot and HGSounds, as well as larger devs like SonicCouture (can) represent good value.
It's also true that many expensive kontakt libraries regularly go on sale so for the hobbyist, waiting can net you much better value than a product that never goes on any significant sale.
I should also acknowledge and point out that when my needs are on the "need" side of things that I have no problem paying what other's consider is too much for certain types of products and my own value equation will be very different than what I present here. If Omnisphere helps you get your job done, then it's probably a bargain for you, but, don't mince words, your job is not one that demands high quality DSP modeling. I think that Wag's customer who produces The Young and the Restless exemplifies this. That's NOT a critical audience.
When people ask here they are frequently comparing it to other synthesis products and it's fair to say that similar samples and technology can be had for much less money and that there are better products for most of the things that Omni does, if, better is defined by technical excellence. For almost anyone making music at home, there are better ways to spend $500.