Phase Plant... Thoughts?

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Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 am

Hello!

PP seems to have a lot going on under the hood and I'm feeling an itch to buy it (I have an upgrade path from multi-pass).

But the sound demos from the KH website don't really do it for me - Am I missing something?

So what are you thoughts on it?

Thanks!
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seismicfm
KVRist
73 posts since 12 Jan, 2014

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:38 am

I've installed and reinstalled the demo several times, thinking I missed something the last time. But it just doesn't do it for me either. The presets are pretty weak, and the effects and filters are meh. The modulation capabilities are pretty much limitless, and I like the workflow. But I think you really need to dive deep into this to get impressive sounds. Honestly, I haven't heard anything through presets or sound design demos that made me go WOW! this is a so-and-so synth killer! I think i'm going to try the demo again. I'm sure I missed something!

recursive one
KVRAF
4608 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:43 am

Same thing, no audio examples I ever heard sounded any convincing. Seems to be that "features over sound" trend in purest form.

I never tried the demo though, maybe it would change my mind but these days i only download a demo if I have heard some impressive audio.
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Whywhy
KVRian
522 posts since 11 Aug, 2018

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:50 am

Try the demo several times too, great audio rate modulation sound but that's all, plus, I've go a problem with my mouse controlling their knobs. Uninstall. I've got other tools.

Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:27 am

seismicfm wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:38 am
I've installed and reinstalled the demo several times, thinking I missed something the last time. But it just doesn't do it for me either. The presets are pretty weak, and the effects and filters are meh. The modulation capabilities are pretty much limitless, and I like the workflow. But I think you really need to dive deep into this to get impressive sounds. Honestly, I haven't heard anything through presets or sound design demos that made me go WOW! this is a so-and-so synth killer! I think i'm going to try the demo again. I'm sure I missed something!
This is it... On paper it seems perfect. But so far I've not heard anything that has blown me away. :(
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Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:28 am

Whywhy wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:50 am
Try the demo several times too, great audio rate modulation sound but that's all, plus, I've go a problem with my mouse controlling their knobs. Uninstall. I've got other tools.
That'd be a problem alright.
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Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:29 am

recursive one wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:43 am
Same thing, no audio examples I ever heard sounded any convincing. Seems to be that "features over sound" trend in purest form.

I never tried the demo though, maybe it would change my mind but these days i only download a demo if I have heard some impressive audio.
Exactly this... I'll only install summat' that sounds really good. Looks like I'll be passing on it then.
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DJErmac
KVRian
979 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:56 pm

Haven't been impressed either. Only a couple of presets sound really awesome. But nothing can justify this price. This is not a "not bad" price, this is a "holy sh!t I want it right now" price, and it simply doesn't work in my opinion.

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Ed A.
KVRist
339 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Outer Bongolia

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:34 pm

Phase Plant=Face Plant :dog:

XxEDxX
KVRist
51 posts since 31 Mar, 2019

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:43 pm

I'm a bit stunned about mostly negative comments. Phase Plant is a total playground with lots of synthesis and modulation options. Starting with an empty init preset, it's *your* task to create whatever sound you like. If *you* wanna have a warm/crisp/wide/whatever sound, just do so :D So deciding just by judging some presets alone is not smart (as for every synth). If you're not a sound designer but a preset stepper I might understand your point.

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Dirtgrain
KVRian
655 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:45 am

Show them then?

FotoxBr
KVRist
56 posts since 6 Jul, 2019

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:21 am

XxEDxX wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:43 pm
So deciding just by judging some presets alone is not smart (as for every synth).
It is smart when you know your own patches will never reach the level of professional sound designers :-) I expect the presets to represent the best a synth has to offer. I never heard phase plant btw.

Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:36 am

XxEDxX wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:43 pm
If you're not a sound designer but a preset stepper I might understand your point.
Well, I rarely use presets (if ever)... I watched several videos now of presets and sound design. I'm not disputing the fact that it is a digital playground. Hence, my 'on paper' comment earlier.

I've not been impressed with the synths sonics so far... I'm happy to have my mind changed though! But I'm not going to install a demo of something until I hear good 'beefy' sounds.

I've heard great shit from Serum that's why I bought it originally.
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Robmobius
KVRAF
3413 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:38 am

FotoxBr wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:21 am
XxEDxX wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:43 pm
So deciding just by judging some presets alone is not smart (as for every synth).
It is smart when you know your own patches will never reach the level of professional sound designers :-) I expect the presets to represent the best a synth has to offer. I never heard phase plant btw.
Exactly this!! :tu: When you see pros, who you know are really good at sound design, and they can't make the synth sound great then it's got to raise an eyebrow or two.
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StuSmith
KVRist
89 posts since 3 Aug, 2015

Re: Phase Plant... Thoughts?

Post Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:14 am

As always it's best to try it for yourself. They have a free, fully-functional trial.

https://kilohearts.com/faq

You can make anything from super precise and clean digital synthesis to fat, wide warm (insert adjective) leads, basses and pads etc... that's kinda the deal with something this modular and open. Not for everyone but if you try it you'll know if it's for you.
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