Matt Tytel makes Vital Open source!!

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KVRist
132 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:12 am

Matt Tytel has made a huge contribution to Opensource world by making Vital synth code available under GPLv3 https://github.com/mtytel/vital.will be very interesting to see future developement of Vital(along with Surge and Odin2).
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KVRAF
7015 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:20 am

Amazing- A synth as good (maybe better) as the current market leaders is opensource! :clap:
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KVRAF
8343 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:22 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:20 am
Amazing- A synth as good (maybe better) as the current market leaders is opensource! :clap:
One could argue Surge was first and it's easily as good (or better) than many hybrid VA/WT synths :)

Regardless, that's a great move from Matt!!! :clap: :love:
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KVRAF
7015 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:29 am

antic604 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:22 am
SLiC wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:20 am
Amazing- A synth as good (maybe better) as the current market leaders is opensource! :clap:
One could argue Surge was first and it's easily as good (or better) than many hybrid VA/WT synths :)

Regardless, that's a great move from Matt!!! :clap: :love:
True, but to me at least Surge sounded great but seemed a little dated in use and visually where as Vital is totally cutting edge and better than most 'new' synths for visual feedback and workflow.
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KVRAF
8393 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:43 am

Great contribution. Thanks to Matt!

I haven't used Vital a ton, but I'm glad I bought the Pro version to support the project and glad Matt is giving back.

KVRist

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132 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:48 am

"Vital is a spectral warping wavetable synthesizer."
"This is the source."
-from Github. sounds good :)

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KVRAF
8343 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:49 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:29 am
...where as Vital is totally cutting edge and better than most 'new' synths for visual feedback and workflow.
That's interesting, because I feel completely the opposite way with Vital - I don't really like the way it looks and works, probably because it's heavily inspired by certain other synth I don't like ;)

Anyway, I'm really happy the synth is a success for Matt and he can open it!
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KVRAF
18737 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:53 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:29 am
antic604 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:22 am
SLiC wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:20 am
Amazing- A synth as good (maybe better) as the current market leaders is opensource! :clap:
One could argue Surge was first and it's easily as good (or better) than many hybrid VA/WT synths :)

Regardless, that's a great move from Matt!!! :clap: :love:
True, but to me at least Surge sounded great but seemed a little dated in use and visually where as Vital is totally cutting edge and better than most 'new' synths for visual feedback and workflow.
Yeah, Vital has an exceptional GUI... and is at least as good if not better than any synth out there for MPE. Matt has done a fantastic job on it. I'm very happy I bought the Pro version to support his efforts!

KVRian
617 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:54 am

sorry for the noobish question, but is open source really a superior solution?
Will there now be dozens of different Vitals available, all with different feature sets to each other?
Will there be one single source where you can find them/it? Or will they be scattered around the interwebz?
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KVRAF
21529 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:58 am

It all depends. But once something is open-sourced, it will be forked and forked and forked. That doesn't mean there will be many parallel releases. Many people will just fork in order to build the source and fiddle around with it. There's no way to tell. Surge was lucky that a couple of crazy people stumbled upon it and after 2 years a ton of stuff was added and there are no other prevalent forks that "do things differently". That's not to say that at some point there won't be, but for now, Surge's development is centralized still. Who knows what will happen with Vital, but the statement that pull requests won't be taken says that you will still be getting the main, original, "intended" Vital from Matt himself.

KVRian
617 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:11 am

Thanks,
i generally find open source interesting, but haven't really been exposed to it myself too much, so these were the concerns that came to mind which might become actually detrimental to it's evoultion as too many cooks could easily spoil the broth.
Having said that, i also want to join the choir in thanking Mr. Tytel for releasing such a big project for free to the public, that can easily compete with the big (and expensive) boys in the business. :love:
It must feel weird to let your new born baby go, even if he had this in mind from the get go.
Let's see what the future brings for Vital! :party:
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KVRian
1151 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:20 am

I'm about to fork it hard... y'all get ready for.... VitalCoin !

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KVRAF
15220 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:25 am

Hasn't Matt's Helm synth been open source for quite some time ? Have we seen any further development of it by the open source community ? ( I really don't know, I'm just asking)

I'm more curious as to the reason Matt has set Vital as open source since if memory serves me correctly (and it may not) he said it wasn't or wouldn't be open source.

Oh well I wish Matt all the best and hope he has been properly compensated for his work on Vital. Looking forward to what the future holds.
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KVRian
1151 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:35 am

I thought pre-Vital launch Matt (when prompted) had not said yes or no about Vital going open source - in other words it was more of a "no comment" type of thing, but I as well as others I'm sure read that to mean that there was a chance, and a good chance at that, that it would be open source at some point.

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KVRAF
18737 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:45 am

FapFilter wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:11 am
Thanks,
i generally find open source interesting, but haven't really been exposed to it myself too much, so these were the concerns that came to mind which might become actually detrimental to it's evoultion as too many cooks could easily spoil the broth.
That is not an apt analogy cause each of those cooks would be doing their broth.

As long as you download Matt's broth, it is Matt's broth. Open Source doesn't mean other people are changing his broth without his say so.

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