I wish hard sync was actually good...

[gentleclockdivider]

You can also do it with ca2600 , but the sync is horrible
It's indeed a variation of vosim , here's another example I did with reaktor
viewtopic.php?t=552822
Talmod is worth getting anyway , it sounds fabulous in all areas and makes you wonder why certain companies can't even code decent osc.sync

[Sinisterbr]

Talmod is worth getting anyway , it sounds fabulous in all areas and makes you wonder why certain companies can't even code decent osc.sync

Fully agreed

[cnt]

Never liked hard sync, to me classic hard sync sounds are cheezy and quite lame (Axel F theme hehe). but I love screaming leads. Your example on screamings lead sounds cool (not listening in studio tho). Havent really found anything in software that can make screaming leads like combined hardware modules. Reaktor can do it with some obvious drawbacks.
Filters like Wasp is great in combo with Moog type overdrive/feedback... wavefolders and Doepfer PLL... btw, Where can I find the PLL in the VST world?

[kingtubby]

btw, Where can I find the PLL in the VST world?

SoloRack Modular has a PLL module:
http://www.solostuff.net/product/s312-p ... cked-loop/

[vurt]

btw, Where can I find the PLL in the VST world?

SoloRack Modular has a PLL module:
http://www.solostuff.net/product/s312-p ... cked-loop/

any good?
i love a pll

[Architeuthis]

did anyone mention reaktor? https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/4845/

[kingtubby]

btw, Where can I find the PLL in the VST world?

SoloRack Modular has a PLL module:
http://www.solostuff.net/product/s312-p ... cked-loop/

any good?
i love a pll

The layout is somewhat different from the Doepfer but it pretty much works in the same way. It does have 7 different phase comparator modes as opposed to the 3 on the Doepfer. I love it anyway - depending on how it's hooked up it only needs some tiny adjustments to get wild results.

[vurt]

btw, Where can I find the PLL in the VST world?

SoloRack Modular has a PLL module:
http://www.solostuff.net/product/s312-p ... cked-loop/

any good?
i love a pll

The layout is somewhat different from the Doepfer but it pretty much works in the same way. It does have 7 different phase comparator modes as opposed to the 3 on the Doepfer. I love it anyway - depending on how it's hooked up it only needs some tiny adjustments to get wild results.

yeah they can be good fun.

[liqih]

Since we're talking about the "sync" sound, I would like to ask what you all think of the sync effect for pad arpeggio like this:
https://nusofting.com/mp3/synthesizers/ ... eggio.flac
Thanks.

[vurt]

Since we're talking about the "sync" sound, I would like to ask what you all think of the sync effect for pad arpeggio like this:
https://nusofting.com/mp3/synthesizers/ ... eggio.flac
Thanks.

hey!
was lamenting the loss of tublisax on another thread the other day

[Architeuthis]

Since we're talking about the "sync" sound, I would like to ask what you all think of the sync effect for pad arpeggio like this:
https://nusofting.com/mp3/synthesizers/ ... eggio.flac
Thanks.

Very cool.

[foosnark]

PLL digression, because it is one of the things I have played with a lot in modular

You can patch a PLL yourself. You don't even need the filter/slew that the Doepfer PLL has, and you don't need to do any weird stuff with inverting like some people think. Just a phase comparator and an oscillator. And lots of things can work as a phase comparator -- a ringmod/bipolar VCA, logic gates (XOR or NAND seemed to work best for me), or even (though it kind of sucks) a plain VCA.

I wound up selling my Doepfer PLL when I realized I could track better patching my own with Disting's Logic algorithm (and more recently, Mystic Circuits Ana's Ana's box comparator or a ringmod).

Aside from the more obvious things about using a PLL: the follower oscillator's base frequency and the voltage range of the phase comparator are major factors. The more voltage range you have, the less stable it is (generally) but the wider of a range you can track. For the same reason, you'd want to use the V/OCT or exponential FM input, not linear.

Also, some digital oscillators are not good with PLL circuits because they don't sample the frequency inputs fast enough. Others are fine, and analog oscillators/filters are fine.

In a 100% digital setting, a zero crossing counter seems to be more reliable than a PLL... but PLLs are usually fun because they are wrong

[liqih]

Since we're talking about the "sync" sound, I would like to ask what you all think of the sync effect for pad arpeggio like this:
https://nusofting.com/mp3/synthesizers/ ... eggio.flac
Thanks.

Very cool.

TY.

[Architeuthis]

Since we're talking about the "sync" sound, I would like to ask what you all think of the sync effect for pad arpeggio like this:
https://nusofting.com/mp3/synthesizers/ ... eggio.flac
Thanks.

Very cool.

TY.

Sooo how are you getting that sound?

[liqih]

Modulating the slave oscillator with an LFO , range 1x ..9x of the master frequency. Slave oscillator is a soft sawtooth made with FM feedback.