Making dub techno style pads/synths

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Been looking to try and make some dub techno pads and stabs recently, but not finding much luck. Firstly, all tutorials and sample packs that I have seen class dub techno as something much slower than the kind of thing I want to make (will provide examples at the end of the post). This means the sounds are much darker and slower than what I want to make

I have been able to recreate these kind of chords/pads with using ableton's analogue, then adding a lot of off sync delay and reverb, but it's really not what I'm looking for. The only success I've had is finding a random sample, putting it in a sampler and using the reverse sustain so it can be used as a pad. The problem is with this is that it leaves a lot less room for customisation.

What kind of sound I'm after:

(From the begining)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4i6CvsxUo

2:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j6pSbiEnYk&t

1:00:05 in this is perfect example of the kind of pad style I want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnvHu5cvY1g&t=2594s

If anyone could point me to any tutorials or sample packs or better still could explain fully, it would be much appreciated

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Here's a couple of sketches; stuff I've thrown together whilst sound designing to listen to the sounds in context. Is this the kind of thing you're looking for?

https://soundcloud.com/subdubbed/171208-divine

https://soundcloud.com/subdubbed/171220 ... epro-funky

For me, what's important about pad sounds is dynamics and sustain(ability) - working with loops or a single patch is possible of course, however I've found best results by layering, layering, and more layering. Then the magic happens when applying dynamics automation in the DAW to control things like cutoff, resonance, distortion, EQ filtering etc. then bounce it down when you're done.
I can go into more detail but wanted to see first if it's what you're looking for.

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