Can you manipulate the waveshaping controls in realtime (ie while performing) in the full version of Helix? I'm finding in the beta I have installed (not sure if it's the latest one or not) when I try and do this I just get lots of cpu spiking and nasty noises but it would be so nice to be able to like you can in say Z3ta.
Also are the filters less steppy in the full version?
It has a wonderful sound but I would like to be able to manipulate stuff like this in realtime if possible.
Helix waveshapers
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRian
- 707 posts since 16 Dec, 2005 from Novato, California, USA
Hi, the waveshape controls are not suitable for realtime control. This is the flipside of the low-cpu-coin... the idea is that yuo should use the "morph" to morph between the "a" and "b" settings of the sliders... give that a try!aMUSEd wrote:Can you manipulate the waveshaping controls in realtime (ie while performing) in the full version of Helix? I'm finding in the beta I have installed (not sure if it's the latest one or not) when I try and do this I just get lots of cpu spiking and nasty noises but it would be so nice to be able to like you can in say Z3ta.
Also are the filters less steppy in the full version?
It has a wonderful sound but I would like to be able to manipulate stuff like this in realtime if possible.
You could not modulate the waveshape in z3ta could you?
I don't think the filters are "steppy" in the full version. If you install and try the latest version (look at audjoo.com) it should all sound like the full version except for the occasional noise and de-tuning.
Jonas
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- KVRist
- 131 posts since 4 Sep, 2004 from Finland
I'd like to see a real time waveshaping too, altough it would use more CPU. Waveshaping via mod matrix would be very nice and would make this synth unique.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
You can certainly manipulate the waveshaper controls while playing and even record it using VST automation. They are not as comprehensive as those in Helix of course but many of them are comparable in function which shows it is possible.JonasNorberg wrote:Hi, the waveshape controls are not suitable for realtime control. This is the flipside of the low-cpu-coin... the idea is that yuo should use the "morph" to morph between the "a" and "b" settings of the sliders... give that a try!aMUSEd wrote:Can you manipulate the waveshaping controls in realtime (ie while performing) in the full version of Helix? I'm finding in the beta I have installed (not sure if it's the latest one or not) when I try and do this I just get lots of cpu spiking and nasty noises but it would be so nice to be able to like you can in say Z3ta.
Also are the filters less steppy in the full version?
It has a wonderful sound but I would like to be able to manipulate stuff like this in realtime if possible.
You could not modulate the waveshape in z3ta could you?
I have been using the morph controls - that is useful. I was trying to create a Kore template so I could manipulate controls hands on while playing though but I think what I will have to do is construct it on 2 levels - controls for realtime manipulation during performance, and controls suited to offline manipulation for sound design.
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SpecialSpecimen SpecialSpecimen https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=168686
- KVRist
- 175 posts since 20 Dec, 2007
The filter is still pretty "steppy" when you manipulate it using anything but the mod matrix.
Sounds like a good idea - would be fantastic to alter those controls in realtime without loosing the cpu efficient mode.I will have to do is construct it on 2 levels - controls for realtime manipulation during performance, and controls suited to offline manipulation for sound design.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
OK I am trying the demo now. I'm sorry but the filters still seem very steppy to me - especially with the res cranked up. That's a real pity as the oscs themselves are great and quite innovative.
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SpecialSpecimen SpecialSpecimen https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=168686
- KVRist
- 175 posts since 20 Dec, 2007
Try modulating them with some of the matrix parameters - they work well that way.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Why would I do that? I prefer to use my hands (in this case probably with NI Kore's knobs)
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- KVRAF
- 2901 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from dun unda
Yeah, though you'd probably be better off with mapping a CC or something on the matrix to map a CC of your Kore controller's knobs...or are they 'special' in particular? (I don't own Kore.)aMUSEd wrote:Why would I do that? I prefer to use my hands (in this case probably with NI Kore's knobs)
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- KVRian
- 707 posts since 16 Dec, 2005 from Novato, California, USA
I normally map stuff to the mod wheel, or any other cc-thing, I prefer that to using my mouse... My thinking was that if you use automation, you get instant control.. no smoothing, it you use the mod matrix you get some smoothing...aMUSEd wrote:Why would I do that? I prefer to use my hands (in this case probably with NI Kore's knobs)
